https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/new...t-breaker/amp/
Any tips for people in Scotland who will struggle with mental health due to possible 5 mile travel limits and close downs again?
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https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/new...t-breaker/amp/
Any tips for people in Scotland who will struggle with mental health due to possible 5 mile travel limits and close downs again?
So far no-one else is reporting this.
Times now reporting it
https://twitter.com/thetimesscot/sta...334035461?s=21
:( sad if true
Yes. Just get on with it.
We were in almost complete lockdown for 3 months, two weeks is nothing compared to that. We still don’t know if this is definitely happening, and if it does we don’t know how far the restrictions will go.
Let’s see what this entails before we start hitting the panic button.
I get my info from the BBC. Nothing on there.
We have a holiday booked for Scotland in 3 weeks. I've been telling Hubs it's up the shitter for weeks, but he's still hopeful - despite his dad dying (as I type this) and a funeral to arrange.:huh:
I'm so sorry, Nora...He's in denial and clinging to anything he can to put off thinking about the inevitable xx
I thought you were having to stay at home due to your anxiety anyway, Phil?
There is now, and it's nothing like what the Murdoch rags said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54434561
Quote:
New coronavirus restrictions for Scotland will be announced on Wednesday - but it will not be another full lockdown, Nicola Sturgeon has said.
Options for a so-called "circuit-breaker" to slow the spread of the virus were discussed by the Scottish cabinet on Tuesday morning.
The first minister said people would not be told to stay at home, and there would be no national travel ban.
If it does happen Phil I expect you’ll still be working like you did before, so I don’t think much should change. It’s just the psychological impact on you.
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In a nutshell, 'Lockdown-lite'.
I wonder if England, Wales and NI may follow suit?
I don't really think a second full lockdown like March-May would work this time round, as many would simply rebel against it, and policing it would no doubt pose an even bigger challenge now than last time.
I agree with you Gary.
It will probably be a walk in the park compared to the previous (full) lockdown back in the spring. Especially as a lot more is now known about the virus than back then.
According to the BBC article, Nicky Sturgeon has reiterated that it won't be like the situation back in March-May.
Fingers crossed for the vaccines to come soon.
We were in the Scottish Highlands this time in 2014, while also visiting relative in England. How times have changed, just can't imagine ever doing it again :(
You all, remember all the lockdowns I've been through here in CA? You all will get through this too. Take it one day at a time and try not to obsess. :hugs:
So back into lockdown pubs bowling restaurants bingo all closed. Why do we have the worst politicians in this country? England set to follow. Only Labour oppose if only we had them in power. They don’t care about cineworld going under or the pub redundancies announced today it’s all about control.
It's not lockdown, Phil. Just some restrictions which are hardly "draconian".
As for "control"...It's an inconvenience to your routine, I'm sure but you're hardly under curfew.
You'll be okay, Phil. We went through this for months. It sucks, but it really does keep the infections down.
Sturgeon has announced £40m to help industry.
I'm glad the 2m rule is making a comeback. Once they dropped that I saw many people not bother at all. And putting pressure on business who have also relaxed is a good thing.
It's harsh on the pubs but they will be one of the big factors. Just look at the pictures of idiots in city centres not following any of the rules.
Labour are a dying breed in Scotland. It's up to you guys whether you want to keep endorsing Nicola's quest for independence. The last GE only instructed her to push harder.
I agree wholeheartedly with your second paragraph, Terry.
I thought the supermarkets made a big mistake ditching the store marshals, one-way systems and 2-metre distancing rules. Same also with the govt starting to let people have holidays abroad again.
Now look at what's happening!
Tbh Lencoboy I see apathy towards covid everywhere now. In my own family for a start. I went to my Dad's this morning after phoning him first. I got there and he told me he had a headache and felt shivery, I just wish he'd told me first. I relayed this to my son on the phone and I could almost hear the sigh. Wife and daughter too are both fed up with it. And they think I'm not? 'All in this together' has gone stale.
Yeah, I agree. The door marshals, one way systems and shopper spacing were good. Sadly it costs them money so they do it when they are told. Just like the limiting of sales of certain products.
I hardly see anyone cleaning their hands up in entry. Till staff don't either which is just stupid.
I totally agree that the 'all in this together' thing has now sadly gone out the window and many seem to have stopped caring. And the UK is not alone, the same is also happening across much of mainland Europe.
And those Covidiots can whinge and moan to their heart's content about the restrictions to come in England next week, when they're the ones who essentially asked for them themselves by deliberately failing to stick to the rules.
Now we're all having to suffer because of them!!
I read a while back about psychology is having an effect. For example it’s unnatural for humans not to hug or shake hands. What they are asking is very difficult and not sustainable in the long term. I read a post a while back how most “Corona viruses” settle down into society. A vaccine they say won’t get rid of it it may always be a risk but a small one. Lockdowns are not going to work long term and as time goes on less people will listen.
It's by no means gospel that vaccines won't get rid of the virus (or that they will, obviously). We just have to wait and see.
I think you need to pay less attention to the serial antivaxxers, conspiracy theorists and the fake news-mongers, and seek info from the more reliable, trustworthy sources.
I feel just as frustrated and demoralised as you (and many others) right now, but unfortunately it's a situation that still remains beyond our control, and that's the way it is until things finally start to change for the better, which I'm positive they will eventually.
At the moment, I am trying to help a young man on another forum who has concluded that social distancing and the wearing of masks will be permanent and only complete suppression will eliminate the virus.
I'm really at a loss at how to point him in the right direction to overcome this fear.
I suspect it will be an impossible task, PM..despite your best efforts.
Unfortunately, I think social distancing and mask wearing will be around for awhile. But it's not the end of the world.
It's ok since we should have excellent stocks of vaccine from the UK and EU countries given America's Nancy Pelosi is concerned about our lower standards. I don't think she realises our standards match a minimum in the EU until at least next year and the EMA themselves, until recently having to transfer back into an EU country, were based in London (and many staff have remained here).
So I assume she also won't accept vaccines from any EU country given their lower standards?
Funny really when over here the debate rages about a deal with the US and concerns we could lower our standards to allow their food in. That's regulated by the FDA? And the reason we currently won't import it is the EU standards prevent it.
Apologies to our American friends on here. I'm sure when our politicians talk about your issues they are just as clueless. :winks:
They were discussing on the BBC News over lunchtime that the forthcoming restrictions in England to be announced on Monday are likely to be a 'three-tier' arrangement. with areas in the highest 'third-tier' status (greatest number of infections) will have the greatest restrictions, but AFAIK still not the 'full Monty' of lockdown restrictions we faced back in late March-May.
I don't think my area is currently 'third-tier' level though.
To be fair I don’t think the US should be bragging to anyone about our “standards” given the current situation we find ourselves in. And I live here!!! Also Pelosi is a raving lunatic so there’s that lol. Seriously considering defecting to another country at this point :roflmao:and depending on what happens with the election in November that just may become reality haha.
There has never, in the entire time the human race has existed on this planet, been a pandemic or epidemic that altered civilisation for any length of notable time.
This is merely a dropped stitch. This pandemic will last around 18 months and will be quickly suppressed by vaccines and treatments. This particular coronavirus is now most likely endemic, but in a few years time it will be about as noteworthy as a common cold.
We just don’t have enough technology to combat a virus that has existed for less than one year, but we will catch up with it eventually.
It really depends on the state you live in here in the us. The states who have governors and voters who believe in science and public safety are doing much better than the ones who don't, IMO.
Sorry, Gary, I'm gonna have to disagree with this one, on the historical aspects. Definitely the bubonic plague in the 1300s altered civilization. Tuberculosis altered the 1800s and early 1900s. I would argue smallpox and polio as well. I think AIDS altered civilization too. CV will alter our society, but I agree that it doesn't mean the ends of our society. The only constant in life is change. We will adapt to this disease as we have adapted to countless others. It all takes times.
I know it's like comparing apples with oranges but it's often been mentioned that AIDS caused a lot of widespread hysteria back in the 80s and there were even tales of persons being infected by means other than intercourse, some seemingly random and inexplicable.
Yet most of us still carried on as per normal, there were no 'restrictions' nor daily detailed confirmations of AIDS infection rates, hospitalisations and deaths.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not attempting to trivialise Covid in any way but it's worth remembering that there's still plenty of other things out there that are potentially detrimental to our health and lives, yet we don't usually tend to give them a second thought!
I remember the hysteria well, I was in my early twenties at the time. It was dismissed as a "gay plague" at the time, some even welcomed it as God smiting the Sodomites. Until it started spreading amongst heterosexuals.
The other vector for transmission was infected blood in transfusions: https://www.theguardian.com/society/...-blood-scandal
An update on this, Pulisa. The person concerned is nigh-on hysterical about this and despite my efforts to point him in the direction of various self-help sites (anxiety.org.uk even has a section on so-called 'coronanxiety') it doesn't seem to be helping. He's been under attack on another forum for posting his views; some of the posts there have been distinctly unpleasant. He's losing any rational thought process in this; he's convinced that mask-wearing and social distancing will be permanent. He doesn't want to wear a mask either if at all possible due to health reasons.
I'm beginning to find his situation rather upsetting to myself, which in turn makes me feel selfish...
You don't know who this person is, PM..Could well be a troll just winding people up because he/she can.
Look after your own wellbeing and move away? He's obviously keen to stick around on forums where he's getting abuse which begs the question..why?
No, I don't think so; I've been around on the Internet long before there were web forums and I'm good at troll-spotting - and he's really, really struggling.
Like all of us, he just wants answers. It's just he sees this as the end of the world. Pre-Covid his posts were interesting, intelligent and rational.