DP/DR driving me nuts

Over the last week or so I've had a lot of this happening. I'm wondering why now? But in the last year my anxiety has been focused outwards in the direction of a nasty virus, which is really a quite natural anxiety. Maybe I've just forgotten how DP/DR can be very much a part of the anxiety state, especially when its the traditional anxiety that exists for the sake of it?

I've kept on ploughing through the DP, today by frenziedly cleaning down doors and skirting boards, then my workout. But is this the best policy? Do grounding techniques work?

I don't think ploughing through it frenziedly would be the best idea but keeping calm but busy and occupied would be a better aim?

You're right Pulisa, as ever. The woodwork looks nice though.

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Originally Posted by fishman65

You're right Pulisa, as ever. The woodwork looks nice though.

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I bet it does! I bet your house is spotless! Cleaning stuff can be really therapeutic though, can't it, but I think you've got to be in the right mood to get the full benefit.

I think you'll feel better once you both get that first jab and have made it safely through the first few weeks afterwards? You'll soon be able to get out in the garden regularly again. Warmer weather is definitely going to happen-we've got through the worst of the winter now. Things will get better...Hang on to that thought?

And...most important of all...the Toffees got a magnificent victory at Anfield and managed to out-Klopp Klopp!:D

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Originally Posted by pulisa

I bet it does! I bet your house is spotless! Cleaning stuff can be really therapeutic though, can't it, but I think you've got to be in the right mood to get the full benefit.

I think you'll feel better once you both get that first jab and have made it safely through the first few weeks afterwards? You'll soon be able to get out in the garden regularly again. Warmer weather is definitely going to happen-we've got through the worst of the winter now. Things will get better...Hang on to that thought?

And...most important of all...the Toffees got a magnificent victory at Anfield and managed to out-Klopp Klopp!:D

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I wish it were spotless. I did the front door today and all the ground floor windows. Doing jobs while in a trance feels quite odd. I'm wondering if the DP is being driven by the covid jab on Friday. After all, this jab is not just advisable, its essential. I've been trying to think how I could get it done without actually attending. Sever my arm and get someone to take it in?

Yes the Liverpool Everton result was never in doubt :D

You could do what they do in Tanzania and believe that Covid is fended off by prayer...

Or the dual approach of "a limb and a prayer"?

I think the severed limb approach on its own may bring the local Bill to your door again and it may be more difficult to prove your innocence single handedly?

DP is horrible fishman and it's a sign to give the mind a rest. That doesn't mean do nothing, but turn to stuff that gives you pleasure or has a calming effect on the mind. Sleep helps too. So no, the door cleaning isn't necessarily the answer. Only if it gives you pleasure.
Maybe try some of new games in NMP Arcade fishman.
I've even been known to sit down with a sticker book.
And when we get better weather days it will certainly help.
Just remember this feeling passes. x

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Originally Posted by pulisa

You could do what they do in Tanzania and believe that Covid is fended off by prayer...

Or the dual approach of "a limb and a prayer"?

I think the severed limb approach on its own may bring the local Bill to your door again and it may be more difficult to prove your innocence single handedly?

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LOL Pulisa, you're on form. I have to hand it to you. Isn't it daft though all this anxiety over a vaccination. When my daughter was born I had to have a polio booster at the same time as her. It was a drop on the tongue which tasted foul. But I paid it no more attention and yet polio is a really nasty virus. This was 1999 though and polio wasn't all over the news.

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Originally Posted by Carnation

DP is horrible fishman and it's a sign to give the mind a rest. That doesn't mean do nothing, but turn to stuff that gives you pleasure or has a calming effect on the mind. Sleep helps too. So no, the door cleaning isn't necessarily the answer. Only if it gives you pleasure.
Maybe try some of new games in NMP Arcade fishman.
I've even been known to sit down with a sticker book.
And when we get better weather days it will certainly help.
Just remember this feeling passes. x

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Thank you Carnation that's a lovely post :hugs: Isn't DP supposed to be the brain's way of shielding us from trauma? It doesn't feel very comforting though does it. I can't really say cleaning gives me pleasure, often it doesn't look any different afterwards. I think I'm using it as a distraction, so maybe I will take a look at the new games. I did play on one.

I'm only trying to make you smile, Fishman...I don't take anxiety lightly..but I've always found that the puns come more easily when I'm under a lot of stress myself. I'm just a bit weird:)

I remember having those polio- vaccine flavoured sugar lumps..Can you imagine the uproar now if children had those?

What about a Panini sticker book for the Euros?

You're not weird Pulisa :hugs:

Yes, fishman you are right about DP being a state of protection to the brain which seems strange became you think the opposite and think you are losing your mind.
The same with nightmares and bad dreams happening to deal with your trauma and stress while you sleep.
Fishman I find a good balance in your day helpful when like this. Regular meals, good rest, gentle exercise, playtime, listening to music or watching a film, self care and a good quota of sleep.
The jobs can wait while your mind takes a break.

Lol Pulisa, you certainly make me laugh :D

Have you ever had a foot soak fishman? Don't knock it til you've tried it. You might think you are wearing a new pair of feet. ��

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I'm only trying to make you smile, Fishman...I don't take anxiety lightly..but I've always found that the puns come more easily when I'm under a lot of stress myself. I'm just a bit weird:)

I remember having those polio- vaccine flavoured sugar lumps..Can you imagine the uproar now if children had those?

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I know Pulisa, you're not weird though :hugs: I can't remember the sugar lumps, only the time my daughter had it. She was a few months old and made such a racket. When I had mine straight after I could see why.

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What about a Panini sticker book for the Euros?

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LOL you'll have to stop this Pulisa, Lexie is giving me funny looks :D

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Originally Posted by Carnation

You're not weird Pulisa :hugs:

Yes, fishman you are right about DP being a state of protection to the brain which seems strange became you think the opposite and think you are losing your mind.
The same with nightmares and bad dreams happening to deal with your trauma and stress while you sleep.
Fishman I find a good balance in your day helpful when like this. Regular meals, good rest, gentle exercise, playtime, listening to music or watching a film, self care and a good quota of sleep.
The jobs can wait while your mind takes a break.

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Actually sleep, you're so right about that Carnation. I don't get enough of it. Too often on going to bed I read my book (Ken Follet's 'The Evening and the Morning' right now), but instead of sleeping I go on to youtube and listen to music. I rarely get 8 hours because my fitbit keeps telling me. My exercise is intense too, I'm on the advanced level of 4by4's over-50s workouts.

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Have you ever had a foot soak fishman? Don't knock it til you've tried it. You might think you are wearing a new pair of feet. ��

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Only when I have a bath Carnation. I'd need a big bowl, size 14s.

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Originally Posted by fishman65

Only when I have a bath Carnation. I'd need a big bowl, size 14s.

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Are you Sideshow Bob, and the whole social anxiety thing is just a cover???

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Originally Posted by AntsyVee

Are you Sideshow Bob, and the whole social anxiety thing is just a cover???

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You've rumbled me Vee

I thought I had big feet as a size 8!

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Originally Posted by pulisa

I thought I had big feet as a size 8!

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They're above average for a woman in the UK Pulisa. Usually foot size correlates with height, being skeletal. Are you above average height? I'm 6ft 3.

Fishman, 8 hours sleep in a perfect world, but us worriers sometimes struggle to get 6. Then there is broken sleep patterns from waking up from dreams and going to the loo. It wouldn't matter if you had 10 hours if you were waking every couple of hours. It's the quality, not the quantity. Have you tried napping during the day, that might help you.

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They're above average for a woman in the UK Pulisa. Usually foot size correlates with height, being skeletal. Are you above average height? I'm 6ft 3.

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No..I'm average height at 5ft 5. I've got big hands as well...Blimey..Am I a man? I wasn't when I checked this morning but that was before my pfizer jab....:winks:

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No..I'm average height at 5ft 5. I've got big hands as well...Blimey..Am I a man? I wasn't when I checked this morning but that was before my pfizer jab....:winks:

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I've got the same size feet as you, but I'm four inches taller. I also have man hands, which I get teased for a lot. It's okay, at least we can open jars easier.

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Originally Posted by AntsyVee

I've got the same size feet as you, but I'm four inches taller. I also have man hands, which I get teased for a lot. It's okay, at least we can open jars easier.

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That's very true!:D A handy skill indeed!

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Originally Posted by pulisa

No..I'm average height at 5ft 5. I've got big hands as well...Blimey..Am I a man? I wasn't when I checked this morning but that was before my pfizer jab....:winks:

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Its that second head you need to watch out for Pulisa, best get yourself another hat just in case.

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Originally Posted by AntsyVee

I've got the same size feet as you, but I'm four inches taller. I also have man hands, which I get teased for a lot. It's okay, at least we can open jars easier.

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Has Dr Frankenstein been operating lately? I use my teeth for jar lids Vee :D

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Originally Posted by Carnation

Fishman, 8 hours sleep in a perfect world, but us worriers sometimes struggle to get 6. Then there is broken sleep patterns from waking up from dreams and going to the loo. It wouldn't matter if you had 10 hours if you were waking every couple of hours. It's the quality, not the quantity. Have you tried napping during the day, that might help you.

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Carnation, according to my fitbit I rarely get 8 hours. It records every time you wake or are restless, though quite how it knows you're awake I don't know. I try to avoid sleeping in the day as I don't like that feeling of not knowing what time it is/how long I've slept. Mrs F does all my sleeping for me.

I'm back with this DP again and its really going for it right now. To the point where I went to our local Spar and almost had a full on panic attack in the aisle. Anxiety is making me despair at the moment, this started last Sunday. I can hardly believe I drove down to my sister's on 20th November (80 miles) with barely a flicker of anxiety.

What have you got to go through at Christmas?