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Massive panic....Again Tefal pans
Only posted a couple of weeks ago. In my cycle of finding things I’m going to die of I’m now in a mess about non stick pans. I got mine from groupon about 5 years ago and are now scratched, they have been scratched for at least a couple of years and now I cant think of anything other than I’ve now poisoned my family because I shouldn’t have been using them and chemicals have leached into our food and I’ve given us all cancer. I’ve put them in he bin now but I’m petrified of the damage I’ve already done and how utterly stupid I’ve been.
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I’ve had to message the Samaritans I’m in a mess
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I used to be the same with all my pots and pans,I used to scrub them over and over again,never had non stick because of chemicals,just one aspect of my ocd the list goes on,but have had very extensive therapy to get too where I am at.
You will Not die.Are you getting help,re Therapy?
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I’ve had cbt twice, didn’t work. Counselling and a mental health nurse. I’ve been waiting since April to see someone but no one has got back to me yet.
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Since April? That is a long time,can you chase it up or is it your NHS.
You are going to be OK,do some belly breathing and focus on something that you enjoy.
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I’ve been to the doc, she says she’d get in touch with them to see what’s going on but that was nearly a month ago.
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Never heard of this so looked it up and it says it is pretty rare and you would have to be heating the pan to over 260 degrees centigrade for any harmful toxins to be released anyway.
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I looked online and it seems no one uses them, like I’ve been using some foreign object that no one uses and I’ve hurt the ones I live by doing so, the word toxic is thrown round everywhere.
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Loads of people use them, they are on sale everywhere and 70 percent of the population own one or more Tefal coated pans. There was a 2015 report about the substance PFOA that started all the concern (I looked it up too) about possible cancer-links from long-term use, but subsequent reports say that it is too early to draw links and far more testing needs to be done over time to draw conclusions although it is advised not use products using this chemical. I've also seen some people say that those same toxins are present in far higher proportions in other parts of the environment (carpets, curtains and other products), and the coated pans are the smallest proportion of a human's intake of the PFOA. Now, Tefal themselves don't use PFOA and haven't for a decade, they instead use PTFE, which is deemed harmless. So, firstly, are you absolutely sure what your pans are coated with in chemical terms ? It could, and most likely is the harmless substance if you've had them for 5 years. Also, even IF it was the PFOA used then things aren't yet proved conclusively. There are many of us here who will remember the Aluminium pan scare many years ago, where we were told it was linked to Alzheimers, which has since been dispproved. So, basically, you've done the right thing, binned them, and now move on. Tefal themselves (yes, I know they ahve a vested interest) describe all the health issues on this link...
https://www.tefal.com/cookware-commitments
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Massive panic....Again Tefal pans
Thank you, I went on netmums and mumsnet and everyone uses ridiculously expensive pans and they all seem to use eco friendly cleaning products and don’t put their children in school trousers that are Teflon coated. I feel like I’ve done everything wrong especially buying from groupon too in fear of things being fake but they say they recall things if they are. I’ve researched the supplier they got them from and they’ve been going 25 years.
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Oh netmums LOL THAT PLACE ! I swear it is designed to make everybody paranoid and obsessive. Those will be the same Mums talking about their wooden hand wittled ceramic-coated cookware, cleaning products made from extract of mole poo and general avoidance of the current in vogue threat, who are also making their children into jibbering wrecks. They probably also disinfect the bottoms of shoes and only make sandwiches from home-baked bread made with Outter Hebridean hand milled organic double dose whole wheat flour. Look, you can only do what you can do and base it on information you have at the time, and I think there will be a massive proportion of the population who know nothing at all about the 2015 report on this chemical and will be doing nothing about it, so you are 'possibly' one step ahead. I say 'possibly' as the chances seem incredibly high that your Tefal pans are made with the safe chemical. :winks:
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Well that’s made me laugh for the first time in a long time, extract of mole poo. Thank you.
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If I could give Carys's post about Mumsnet a "like", I would :)
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Well, I'm pleased it has made you both smile - I do hope I've not offended anybody who uses Mumsnet and isn't like that. I just think that most parents are doing the best they can and to be made to feel inferior, useless and guilty shouldn't be part of the deal on a parenting website. I also believe that what some people spout off that they do/use may not be a reflection of reality, and the perfection they want others to believe they exhibit ....is probably far from it.
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Thank you, has made me feel a bit better.
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Carys, I love your description of Mumsnet. :roflmao: So accurate!
Vix, I would not worry about the pans. Being only five years old, they would have been PTFE and fine. Just get some new ones, as you deserve some cookware that isn't worn out. I got a new electric skillet, and it makes cleanup so easy.
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Add me to the amused by Carys review of netmums crowd :roflmao: From what I've seen on other forums they get absolutely ridiculed for being so bonkers about everything. The feminism board is rabid from what I've seen.
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I think the message here is not look on mumsnet!
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I think that is an important conclusion to draw from it - yes. Before you jump to thinking that you are 'different to everyone else/have done something incredibly wrong/have poisoned your entire family' at least base your conclusion on a normal cross section of the population rather than a biased group. :roflmao:
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Whenever I worry about something like this I think back to my mom telling me that when she was a kid she and her friends would ride their bikes behind the DDT mosquito repellent trucks because the chemicals smelled good. If you look hard enough you can find a way for anything to kill you. The key is to just stop looking!
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Originally Posted by
ErinKC
Whenever I worry about something like this I think back to my mom telling me that when she was a kid she and her friends would ride their bikes behind the DDT mosquito repellent trucks because the chemicals smelled good.
I remember doing that!
Positive thoughts
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I use tefal pans, I’ve even got some pans where the non stick bit is a bit chipped. Now I’m going to have to throw them away [emoji17].
I did buy some lovely ceramic ones recently that can’t chip. I got them in the sale, because who can afford to spend their precious part time wages on expensive pans.
I’m sorry you got in a state, I’m glad you messaged the Samaritans though. My sister volunteers there, it’s a wonderful organisation.
Sometimes when I’m feeling really bored I go and see what’s trending at mumsnet, it can really cheer you up [emoji3]
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Fantastic words Erin and a quote I'm going to repeat here...
'If you look hard enough you can find a way for anything to kill you'. It is SO true, ANYTHING.
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Thank you everyone, I’m still worried and always will worry about something as that’s just the person I am! It’ll be something different next week. I have just written a list to try snap me out of it. I think back to my dads younger years, both of his parents smoked in the house. I remember I time he told me that at school the teacher let them chase a ball of mercury around the table. He was in quite a good band so spent night after night for years - breathing in secondhand smoke in clubs, smoking a pipe and copious amounts of alcohol, he was a roofer for years- lots of sunlight ( no sun cream, it wasn’t in fashion in the 70’s) he worked shifts for 19 years in a glass factory and apparently silica is bad that makes glass and vinyl that goes in between glass that’s not great. He was a mechanic- breathing in fumes and his hobby is woodwork- breathing in wood dust. He’s now 76 , runs round after my son like a teenager and fitter and healthier than I am. And still I’m worrying about sodding pans.
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vix118
Thank you everyone, I’m still worried and always will worry about something as that’s just the person I am! It’ll be something different next week. I have just written a list to try snap me out of it. I think back to my dads younger years, both of his parents smoked in the house. I remember I time he told me that at school the teacher let them chase a ball of mercury around the table. He was in quite a good band so spent night after night for years - breathing in secondhand smoke in clubs, smoking a pipe and copious amounts of alcohol, he was a roofer for years- lots of sunlight ( no sun cream, it wasn’t in fashion in the 70’s) he worked shifts for 19 years in a glass factory and apparently silica is bad that makes glass and vinyl that goes in between glass that’s not great. He was a mechanic- breathing in fumes and his hobby is woodwork- breathing in wood dust. He’s now 76 , runs round after my son like a teenager and fitter and healthier than I am. And still I’m worrying about sodding pans.
Well doesn’t that just say it all! Love your reasoning.
Perhaps we should just stop cooking altogether. That’ll teach Tefal a lesson [emoji6] x
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Yes I remember when I had my daughter you could smoke in the room,your dad sounds like a real cool dude.:D
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He certainly is. Can’t believe I’m still in a panic over this. So frightened I’ve given my family cancer.
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Look vix, you need to go back over the thread and read it again. The points are all there to counteract your fears on this; the fact that nothing is proved, the fact that your pans were no doubt fine anyway as they were modern, the fact that there would be government warnings if there was a threat, the fact that most households in the UK are probably similar...etc
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It’s ridiculous, I’m an intelligent woman, I have a full time job and my own business I’m not daft I can’t believe I’m letting stuff like this eat me up. I’ve had to nip home from work at dinner to take a diazepam. Got a letter from my docs in the post, just telling me to contact my local mental health service for cbt even though I’ve had it twice before and it was utterly pointless.
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Intelligence has nothing to do with this vix, unfortunately.
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I know, I feel like it should override it though somehow and tell me how ridiculous I’m being.
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Great, something else now. I’ve just realised last year my Dr gave my son Ranitidine when he was a baby for a week. What a great start in life I’ve given him.
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What is wrong with that can I ask?
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nomorepanic
What is wrong with that can I ask?
Apologies for the source, but:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raniti...ing_impurities
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I’m in even more of a state now.
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I would assume your son is no longer a baby and healthy now so what's the problem? :shrug:
Positive thoughts
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He’s 21 months old. Looks very healthy full of energy but I don’t know what damage inside I’ve done to him. I know he was incredibly bad with acid reflux and that’s why the dr gave him it to try. I’m so upset and cross with myself.
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You really have nothing to worry about here. It would be from long term use not just short term use with a baby.
I think you are just winding yourself up so try and relax and calm down.
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Thank you, I’m just so scared of hurting him in some way and the cancer phobia grabbed hold again.
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He’s 21 months old. Looks very healthy full of energy but I don’t know what damage inside I’ve done to him. I know he was incredibly bad with acid reflux and that’s why the dr gave him it to try. I’m so upset and cross with myself.
So, he was incredibly bad with acid reflux and the doctor prescribed short-term ranitidine, the same as many babies up and down the country , as this was before there was a recall of the product. What would have been better, your son continue with incredibly bad acid reflux crying in pain and misery all day and night? There really was no choice you had, it was prescribed, he needed something and it was the medication of choice. SO to say 'Im cross with myself' - why should you be, I don't understand this statement ?
In retropect all sorts of things are not as great as they expect, and I know you are scared about doing harm to your family (as this is the same theme as the tefal pans really) but bear in mind it was short-term use only and some people have taken this for many many years.