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Have had better sleep, still getting up a couple of times but not so agitated, took Zop earlier so that might be a factor or the recent anxiety has run its course. Have had brief but welcome windows of feeling normal so I hope this is a sign of things to come. It is very hard to put into word but I am getting moments of calm in my mind and have been able to enjoy some things more like music/diy in garden etc. I'm very aware that things change very fast with me often hour to hour but it is such a relief to get even small amounts of calm.
Definitely ready to increase dose to 150mg.
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That does sound positive. Improved sleep does help with mood and let's hope it will continue to get better so that you can sleep through. I think I understand the ups and downs with moods. When do you increase?
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Wednesday but she wanted to start it last week i but said lets go nice and slow
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Tomorrow? Good luck! Do you know if the GP is planning to keep you at 150 or increase further? Hoping you get another reasonable night's sleep tonight :)
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Why do I keep deleting my post when trying to edit. I ment to say I see GP next Wednesday and she did not mention going any higher than 150mg. Sleep was bad again, asleep at 9.30pm up at 12am then 4am then up dressed at 6am. Got to just put up with it and it might have something to do with Mirt drop from 30mg to 15mg the change date match my poor sleep.
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Getting some real whacky dreams some not so nice. Got this on Mirt but these are on the next level.
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Yes, I've been having wild dreams too and assume it's due to ven increase. You could well be right about the sleep change and the mirt reduction. I guess it all takes some time to settle. Hope you are doing ok today
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Them dream are mad aren't they. Yes Work was ok but busy which focused my mind so a good thing. Actually slept better last night, still up but it was 2.30am so had a glass of milk then went back to bed at 4am and had a few hours.
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That's definitely sounding more hopeful :) I agree that being busy can be quite helpful for distraction. Milk is supposed to be good for sleep, something to do with tryptophan I think. There's a list of foods which are supposed to be helpful for sleep. I can't remember them all but am sure it'll be online. Let's hope the sleep continues to improve, with or without the crazy dreams!
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That's definitely sounding more hopeful :) I agree that being busy can be quite helpful for distraction. Milk is supposed to be good for sleep, something to do with tryptophan I think. There's a list of foods which are supposed to be helpful for sleep. I can't remember them all but am sure it'll be online. Let's hope the sleep continues to improve, with or without the crazy dreams!
Is Mc Donalds on the sleep list, I hope so 😉
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Is Mc Donalds on the sleep list, I hope so
Sadly not! Oh man, I want McD's now. I'm blaming the mirtazapine :shades:
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Yes I keep driving past the Mc D ads and I'm so weak willed I divert to try the latest new burger. A curry is my fav but with Mirt hunger I will eat anything and it often hits about 2 hours after taking it.
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I haven't had McDonalds in years, but it always smells sooo tempting. I'm taking the mirt when I go to bed to try to stave off the munchies, but I do think it increases my appetite in the day too. Mmmm curry. Love it!
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I haven't had McDonalds in years, but it always smells sooo tempting. I'm taking the mirt when I go to bed to try to stave off the munchies, but I do think it increases my appetite in the day too. Mmmm curry. Love it!
Be strong resist.
I used to wake up after an hour after taking Mirt and eat.
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Just seen GP and she has upped the Ven to 150mg and keeping the Mirt @ 15mg for now. Zopliclone will be reduced once I'm stable on the Ven. So here we go hope it keeps getting better.
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Good luck, hopefully this will be the dose for you, fingers crossed for you 🤞🙂
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Good luck, hopefully this will be the dose for you, fingers crossed for you 🤞🙂
Hey thanks Jo,
Things any better for you ? Has the anxiety reduced.
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It’s better this evening but then i’m always ok in the evenings! I ended up taking a diazepam at midday so that sorted me out for a little while, then my neighbour invited me over for a coffee so our kids could play...I wouldn’t have considered going if it was this time last week so just got to keep reminding myself there are lots of little improvements even though they are hard to see sometimes
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Good luck Maca. That sounds like a sensible route your doc is taking. Will be keeping my fingers crossed for you.
Jo - glad you're feeling a bit better. Hang on to those little improvements. Maybe write them down so you can remind yourself of them when you're struggling?
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It’s better this evening but then i’m always ok in the evenings! I ended up taking a diazepam at midday so that sorted me out for a little while, then my neighbour invited me over for a coffee so our kids could play...I wouldn’t have considered going if it was this time last week so just got to keep reminding myself there are lots of little improvements even though they are hard to see sometimes
Sounds like you pushed yourself to go for a coffee and enjoyed it so that's good. Funny how we both feel better in the evenings, l never really understood why that is, maybe we have had such a hectic day of anxiety our minds just take a break. I still have the odd 1/2 a Zopliclone to calm me in the day but the need is getting less and less. Hold onto the positives.
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Great idea of righting things down, I make notes every day on my phone just the date and how I feel also a score out of 10 for anxiety levels and any med changes. It can be a pain to do it if your feeling crap but it does help to look back. Problem is that we tend to remember how crap we feel and forget the feeling better bits so its a good reminder.
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Very true and it can sometimes feel like a hassle, but there are usually some positive things each day, even really small things. It's nice to focus on those when you can and nice to look back on, especially when you can see the improvement.
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Since I increased the Ven to 150mg my sleep has gone mad again, up at 3am come 5am I just had shower and got dressed. Sure this will settle as it did before so not worried about it but I get tired at work now.
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Yes, give it time to settle. I think that it might settle quicker for you this time as you're not as stressed about it. Following way too many years of poor sleep, I have learned to remind myself that if I don't sleep well, I'll feel tired but nothing bad will happen. Hope you continue to do well
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Sounds like you pushed yourself to go for a coffee and enjoyed it so that's good. Funny how we both feel better in the evenings, l never really understood why that is, maybe we have had such a hectic day of anxiety our minds just take a break. I still have the odd 1/2 a Zopliclone to calm me in the day but the need is getting less and less. Hold onto the positives.
I think it’s because your cortisol levels are naturally lower in the evening and high in the morning so that would explain why most people with anxiety are worse first thing. So if you’re ever having a crap day just remember it won’t last all day 🙂
Luckily i’ve had a fairly good day today...no anxiety at all until this evening as I had to take my son to the out of hours doc as he had a really high temperature (turned out to be an ear infection so nothing major) but I managed to stay pretty calm. Two weeks and 4 days on 150mg and things are looking up 🤞🙂
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Lets hope its all starting to come together for us all I hope so.
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Absolutely agree about cortisol. If I'm going through a bout of anxiety it's always worst in the morning. Sorry to hear about your son Jo, but glad it turned out not to be too serious and you got it sorted. Well done both, looks like perseverance is paying off :)
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I've done more garden work over the last couple of weeks than I've properly done over the last year. Something is changing in my brain and work has also been good, I actually enjoyed it yesterday and had abit of humor back. Still early days but if this a sign of things to come then its welcome. Had some acid reflux in my sleep last night after eating a late meal then going straight to bed at 7.30pm, woke up choking like when you have a drink and it goes down the wrong way and you lung flaps close for a few seconds. I have had this scary thing happen a few times in as many years and normally I would go into HA anxiety mode and I would be in a panic for days and scared to go to sleep but last night I got up in a panic and by the time i got downstairs I was pretty calm. Went back to bed and went to sleep. This med is blocking me from escalating things and I am much more calm. Got to give my food time to digest before lying down to sleep. So Gaviscon before bed what's next, a walking frame, O the joys of being in your 50's.
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O the joys of being in your 50's.
Wait until you hit the 70s! :ohmy:
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Wait until you hit the 70s! :ohmy:
I will report back in 15 years and we can compare notes 😉
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Had the best nights sleep last night I have had in months so feel pretty good today much more in the loop of life again and able to get out with family and enjoy things. I think I am responding well to the Ven increase and hope this continues.
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That's so good to hear! I'm so glad you're doing so much better :yesyes:
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That's so good to hear! I'm so glad you're doing so much better :yesyes:
Are you finding things any better ?. How are the teatime moods.
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I think a bit better thanks. Still get the ups and downs but haven't had the really awful lows at 5 for a little while, so keeping my fingers crossed.
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Sounds like things are coming together. I was thinking today, while at the local cat & rabbit rescue centre summer fair, how alien the feelings of happiness and relaxation is to me. I have spent so much time in the dark side of my mind I have almost forgotten how normal feels, what is an every day feeling for most has been absent in my life for so long. I have had a glimpse of how things can be for the last few days and it is most welcome.
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I understand exactly what you mean, 100%. Those glimpses are lovely. I really hope they become less of a rarity and a more frequent occurrence, and it looks promising :)
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Bit of an up and down day today but still feeling better and any anxiety is short lived. I think I need to just accept any moods as normal and stop trying to be this person who is always happy and stress free. I have always said to myself, one day I will be that perfect person, but he doesn't exist or ever will so I can take the pressure off myself.
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I agree with you about acceptance, and I think it's easy to put pressure on yourself that you should feel amazing every day, but that's not realistic for anyone and everyone has up and down days. Some sort of normality is my aim, whatever that is :wacko:
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Yer normal for me is just having some time not freaking out about some silly thing and be able to engage with whatever I'm doing.
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Well a gauge of my mood can be measured by my car. I am a little ocd and always keep my car clean and waxed but the last few months its just been sat in the garage dirty from when we got back from a weekend break. Today its been washed waxed and is looking like new. I'm getting an interest in things back and its so nice to be getting bits of me back 😀