the EU & the UK

[Noivous]

Brexit...don't these people have jobs?

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018...s-mogg-speech/

[MyNameIsTerry]

Brexit...don't these people have jobs?

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018...s-mogg-speech/

Probably not. Activists, often from well off families who do this as a profession rather than have to work. Some choose to squat and cause problems for landlords. Look at the BLM here when they did the sit in at the airport...what a bunch of rich kids.

This is more about anti-Tory than Brexit though. It's the Labour rent-a-mob that have been validated by the likes of Momentum and the lack of action taken by Jeremy Corbyn as party leader to stop the nutters. Anti Semitism is rife in these far left groups.

It's ironic. These types are part of the "no platforming" idiot breed we have at the moment. They don't do tolerance, they wouldn't get it if it came in a bag marked "it" how stupid this view is.

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Why even let people in with masks on though? Got a mask on, get booted out, simple. Why do they pander to these idiots?

Left, right, centrist, blah blah blah, if you are there for violence then it's in a cell for you. Simple.

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Looking at the current situation it's unlikely that Brexit will even happen. Unless Theresa May is put out of her misery and Jacob Rees Mogg becomes the next PM. Even if a basterdised version of Brexit does take place then it will be in name only. It seems like the judicial system in Ireland is very corrupt and compromised just like their Globalist PM.

It's frustrating as phase 1 was just a load of rubbish really. Phase 2 is where we will finally see what May & co really are looking for and where the EU will backslide on red lines too.

I spent quite some months seeing people talking about how the GFA would dictate us staying in a CU and when the speech finally came we gave a wishy washy assurance rather than a guarantee but we offered to stump up the cash and the EU kicked the Irish can down the road.

That told me all of Barnier's harsh words were BS. I bet the Irish weren't happy.

I'm still hoping it goes ahead but without having something clear to understand it's just so much speculation all the time about what thoughts are really inside the politician's head when they made the speech and they do keep contradicting each other.

Labour are dodgy too. They are just as split. Many seem to think they are playing a blinder by letting the Tories mess it up and take the blame. I guess that depends on how thick you are to see Labour not pick a side in this and then point the finger. Labour should be kicking the Tories daily over all this and their leadership is as weak as May's.

[Hollow]

Far-left protester caught on camera as part of a mob wrecking a speech by Jacob Rees-Mogg is a middle-class graduate who was branded a 'naughty boy' by his grandmother

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...am-suburb.html

Josh’s 82-year-old grandmother Jillian Connor admonished him, saying of the incident: ‘I saw it and I thought surely not. You naughty boy.’

Speaking from her cottage in Kent, she added: ‘He is a very keen Socialist, slightly to the left of Trotsky, he is an ardent Labour supporter.

Good call by Terry. It's clear that this braindead, foot soldier of the Marxist empire has little experience of living in the real world. Again, credit goes to Jacob Rees-Mogg for confronting this zombie and making him look foolish. Sometimes, I think these agitators are hired by the politicians themselves because they play right into their hands. Still, the level of brainwashing which is taking place in our "academic" institutions can't be underestimated.

[MyNameIsTerry]

Nice, didn't think it would be long before they were tracked down. I think you are right, Hollow. Professional protesters with their expenses paid by the people who's bidding they are doing.

I'm sure N will tell us about the US protesters who flew to France to protest Trump turning up. I remember laughing when one reporter interviewed an American protester who revealed she had been paid to go there.

I would imagine most people lower than middle class are too busy working to pay their bills as they don't have mummy & daddy to finance them.

Fair play to politicians facing them down. It just shows how stupid they are when faced with a platform to discuss their beliefs. A professional politician will run rings around them, which is to be expected, but just shouting "fascist" over & over is hardly demonstrating your understanding of what you say you are fighting for. Perhaps Jezzy could issue them with a script like call centres have?

[mezzaninedoor]

Im sorry I dont buy the paid Protester Shtick. Yes quite happy to believe that there are middle class marxists out there who think agressive protesting gets us somewhere when all it does is hand back the high ground to the people you are protesting about.

No platforming is not something that I agree with, however, I do think that there is a case for not inviting foreign nationals to speak over here if we know they are deranged or have disruptive views.

I think Rees-Mogg did well under the circumstances but hes currently doing all he can to peddle Brexit lies on his side of the argument, he was called out on it with Gove and Johnson by Matthew Parris this week but the article is sadly behind a paywall at the Times.

Matthew Parris is a fellow Tory.

[Hollow]

There are plenty of Tories who don't want Brexit to happen, Theresa May is one of them. All this talk of a soft or hard Brexit and of different "phases" is a smoke screen. Even if Brexit does happen in whatever form, "democracy" has already been exposed for what it is - a sytem which allows a minority to rule over the majority.

Labour has been completely taken over by Communists and it's only a matter of time until Jeremy Corbyn becomes PM. It's also interesting that in Wales, voting age has been lowered to 16, a very calculated move by the ruling elite.

[MyNameIsTerry]

Our democracy always is the minority ruling over the majority, it happens every time we have a vote

Unless we plan on compulsory voting for a start then this will never change. Brexit had more votes than any previous vote, didn't it? Yet around a third still didn't bother. Whether Remain or Leave voted it was always going to end up a minority vote unless one side was a landslide.

[mezzaninedoor]

There are plenty of Tories who don't want Brexit to happen, Theresa May is one of them. All this talk of a soft or hard Brexit and of different "phases" is a smoke screen. Even if Brexit does happen in whatever form, "democracy" has already been exposed for what it is - a sytem which allows a minority to rule over the majority.

Labour has been completely taken over by Communists and it's only a matter of time until Jeremy Corbyn becomes PM. It's also interesting that in Wales, voting age has been lowered to 16, a very calculated move by the ruling elite.

I dont believe that Labour has been taken over by communists, thats a reactionary comment I think , I know a few people in the Party, centrists and its true that the Left wing has the upper hand at the moment but its not a takeover, its just a balance of power thing.

I still don't think that Jeremy Corbyn is electable as I think the silver haired vote is generally very anti-Corbyn, they seem to like slick politicians like Blair, Cameron & I think they see May as doing well under hard circumstances.

I just hope no one wants the objectionable Rees-Mogg

[MyNameIsTerry]

People generalise too much, I feel. Many pensioners are lifelong Labour supporters. And when I was young I would have been a willing Labour voter but I wouldn't be attracted by the kind of movement seen behind what uni students follow. Prioritising their uni education over the rest of us who were busy working would have been divisive in the young.

I think you have to factor in the North/South divide, or rather the London bubble. Labour strongholds are less about the politics of Labour London and more about workers rights & employment. I grew up thinking Labour was the party for the working man.

I don't feel Corbyn is electable either but I think that is also because his type put of a lot of traditional Labour voters further up the country. My area turned blue for the first time in it's history when it's a stronghold.

I also think under a better leadership the Tories would be in serious trouble right now. They are struggling on Brexit and other issues. May seems quite a weak leader in practice although I realise she has little support given Brexit has torn both major parties down the middle. But a strong Labour leader would exploit this to nail them in their coffins yet Corbyn can't do it which to my mind just shows how poor he is and more suited to the back benches.

I do also wonder whether Corbyn is staying silent because the Tories will take us out of the EU, which can free him from neo liberalism.

I agree, Labour has just been dragged to the left. Sadly the response seems to be a lurch to the right by the Tories. I prefer more centrist parties to better represent the majority on either side.

Still, UKIP is dead. Voters have returned to both Labour & the Tories. Again the bubble affects what people see, many a Labour voter up here went to UKIP because of immigration so can now return.

[Hollow]

'Man in white shirt' who defended Jacob Rees-Mogg in university bust-up is pictured in black Nazi uniform

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz56Lk0K7BJ

Jacob Rees-Mogg is far from perfect but he is not a traitor like 99% percent of the politicians out there. He is a family oriented guy who believes in traditional values so it's unlikely that he has many skeletons in the closet. This means that he can't be easily blackmailed and bought off like so many of the prostitutes in our Parliament. The lying press is now trying to destroy his reputation.

There is now a real danger that Jeremy Corbyn will be the next PM because of the pathetic leadership of Theresa May. She needs to be kicked out ASAP and replaced by someone who truly believes in Brexit. Corbyn will bring with him the likes of Abbot,Thornberry and McDonald and they will destroy what's left of Great Britain.