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    My second worry, worse than the first one...

    Hi community, dumb old me again. So in my last post (which was yesterday) I talked about how I feared I was a pedophile and feared arrest for things I'd seen on the internet when I was younger. I got many encouraging replies which really helped with clearing up a lot of the anxiety, however, besides the topic yesterday, I also have a bigger concern linked to pedophilia. I get some really terrible images in my head. Before I go on my huge rant, I'm just going to apologise, nobody wants to hear the same guy going on and on about his issues, and I'm aware of that, so I'm sorry for being selfish about this. I'd also like to note that there's a trigger warning in here as well, so for sensitive viewers, please don't cause yourself anxiety by reading this, you're more important!
    So yeah, quite a few of you have read about my POCD issues about cartoon pornography I've seen in the past (which depicted young girls), it really caused me issues as you can tell, but a larger worry is the images that I get in my head now. Initially, the worry in my other post was the only thing that affected me, I was worried that I was a pedophile for the things I'd seen. But now, I cannot look at little girls without getting terrible images in my head.
    (Trigger warning round here, please look away as I don't want to cause anyone anxiety over this) Images with little girls in the positions that I would have seen in the cartoons would pop into my head, however the little girls would be real, moreover they would be the girls I'd seen whilst looking around in public (the girls faces). Initially when I received these thoughts, I would scrunch up my toes, or cringe, maybe close my eyes and shake my head in reaction to the thoughts, of course they're not right, and I don't want them to be there.
    However, I'm really anxious that now when I receive the thoughts, I feel a tingly sensation down there, and what's worse is that when that happens I don't feel the need to scrunch up my toes or react. I've read about groinal response many many times and I have tried convincing myself that it's only that, an aspect of OCD, but sometimes the thoughts can be seriously graphic and disturbing, and I still feel this sense of arousal. I'd like to note that I've never gone any further with the thoughts (never tried to 'you know what' to them), but I'm worried that I will at some point, which would therefore deem me a pedophile. I attempt to imagine myself actually doing these things to a little girl (it sounds terrible now that I'm typing it) in order to check if I get this feeling through that, but by then I'd have backed out of the thoughts, attempting to tell myself that what I'm thinking is wrong (which I know it is).
    I'm really stuck here (once again), there's so many thoughts going through my head, and many of them are disgusting, but if I find them so disgusting, then why don't I react to them like I used to? As I type this, I'm shaking slightly, but why would I be shaking now instead of before when the thoughts popped up into my head? Once again, I'm so sorry for being selfish about my issues and everything, I know that others have it a lot worse than I do, and I'm no more important than anyone else, but I really am convinced that I'm a pedophile now.

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    Re: My second worry, worse than the first one...

    You really need to talk this out with a therapist, I think. It's a very sensitive issue.

    Try not to test yourself. When you have an intrusive thought you should accept it as one and then move on, let it pass.

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    Re: My second worry, worse than the first one...

    I'm trying to persuade my parents to organise me a session with a councillor about the issue as a whole, I really don't know what to do though I feel like such a sicko.

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    Re: My second worry, worse than the first one...

    if you are becoming aroused to any degree when thinking of sex acts with little girls then I`d get some professional help rather than try to sort it out on your own. I`m not judging you but I`d go and talk to someone sooner rather than later.

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    Re: My second worry, worse than the first one...

    Does this mean I'm possibly a pedophile then? I'm really praying it's groinal response as I feel no sexual attraction to youngsters but there's always that feeling, I don't know what it is.

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    Re: My second worry, worse than the first one...

    I don`t know one way or the other, I know very little about OCD and even less about paedophiles. gut feeling is its better to talk through your thoughts and urges than let them build into something thats going to cause problems in future.

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    Re: My second worry, worse than the first one...

    I'm in a rush so for now have a read through this thread as it addresses most of what you have said:

    http://www.nomorepanic.co.uk/showthr...highlight=POCD

    The images, the "testing" compulsions, the groinal responses, etc. And no, mastibation to intrusive thoughts does not make you a paedophile, it is a medically documented scenario to prove relief which makes the sufferer feel even worse (guilt, shame, reinforcement of fears, etc).

    Paedophilia is very different, it's not based on compulsions to reduce fear, it's based on reward. The medical definitions by WHO are very different, they are in different categories due to the different drives involved.

    Whilst this is a sensitive subject, this has been discussed many times since I've been here and Admin have never had an issue with it. The same with violence themes. There should be no issue, it's a well known OCD theme, but it's only well known to those of us who have spent time reading about it so it may seem sensitive to those who haven't. But seeing a therapist to tackle the OCD is always a good suggestion.

    It may be beyond on the scope of some here but that just means they haven't spent much time on the OCD board or in OCD circles where it is common. A search on this board alone will turn this up. You have have as much right to discuss this on here add any other anxiety issue.
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    Re: My second worry, worse than the first one...

    Yep, I don't think I'd ever do it as it's a terrible thing to do but these thoughts just have to be explained, be it paedophilia or OCD (praying to god it's OCD as I want a family with kids when I'm older, I'd never want to do anything to them).

    ---------- Post added at 16:26 ---------- Previous post was at 16:23 ----------

    MyNameIsTerry,
    Thank you so much, I'm glad you know your way around this and I'm sorry once again for being selfish about my issues and stuff (this is directed at everyone who commented and helped). I'll definitely make sure to read through the thread, thank you so much for the guidance.

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    Re: My second worry, worse than the first one...

    No problem, it's what we are here for, to support each other.

    I will have more time for this later, I'm just going out, but with that being a big thread if you want to get some quicker answers I highly recommend Steve Seay's articles. He is a licensed psychologist who treats OCD in the US, including this theme, and I found his articles explained a lot for me. I don't think he mentions the groinal responses, I can't remember, but that is documented and why it's actually outside of our control in terms of it being triggered. More on that later.
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    Re: My second worry, worse than the first one...

    Will definitely have a look, I really do owe you big time, thanks a lot for the help on the issue, I just don't want to be experiencing this anymore and really want to know what it is so that I can tackle it.

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