Can anybody recommend a wash basket?

[pulisa]

So it's not really a problem then..?

[Carys]

anybody who knows me would never know I have ocd or anxiety

Really? So is your OCD just confined to the home?


So, like, at work the germs aren't an issue,nor when out and about, or staying with other people....or any other scenario....


if thats the case, then maybe there is merit in trying to harness whatever 'works' in the other environments. What do you think makes the difference?

[phil06]

And being honest the constant questioning my ways isnt helping much so I may bow out of this topic for a bit.

It’s goint far too off topic into other issues. The fact is on the topic I discussed about dirty washing I replaced my camera that’s the issue I have so any discussion should Be on that only

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Other than my partner nobody knows about these issues too much so to the average person nobody notices.

If I replace something that’s a private thing I hardly put it on Facebook

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And trust me anybody who knows me would never know I have ocd or anxiety

Really? So is your OCD just confined to the home?


So, like, at work the germs aren't an issue,nor when out and about, or staying with other people....or any other scenario....


if thats the case, then maybe there is merit in trying to harness whatever 'works' in the other environments. What do you think makes the difference?

Yes I mean sometimes I wash my hands at work but usually I resist more. My parents house has a few germs but over all I visit lots of other houses where no I don’t worry about germs.

I can go a six or 8 hour shift only washing my hands after using a toilet. And yes at say my brothers I don’t have any term worries at his house.

I also mentioned I don’t worry if people don’t wash there hands after toilet most of these germ worries are about me.

80% of my ocd is home based the only issue I have outside home is the urge to wash my hands so I would say that’s a mild ocd. What trigger my worse ocd well I moved house twice in 2018 so that’s why.

It does surprise people when I mention how say at work I don’t have much ocd.

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So it's not really a problem then..?

It can be a problem if I have anxiety or replace stuff and my bank balance is low

[Fishmanpa]

I wouldn't say you lead a "normal" life though. Not judging by what you write on here.

That was my point. I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees it. What we see on a daily basis, seems to be debilitating personally and financially.

Positive thoughts

[KK77]

That was my point. I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees it. What we see on a daily basis, seems to be debilitating personally and financially.

Positive thoughts

Denial doesn't surprise me at all. We see it all the time on the HA boards and it's known to obstruct progress in recovery

[MyNameIsTerry]

I wouldn't say you lead a "normal" life though. Not judging by what you write on here.

I think what he means is that it doesn't infringe on much of his life.

I keep seeing people say this is so severe but I've seen far worse than this. I've seen far worse than this on here. I suspect if it wasn't for the replacing of expensive items, something I knew another member struggled with (expensive collectable watches), this would be pretty much nothing more than many members.

They will assess it based on how much it is affecting his life and the time involved in obsessive-compulsive cycles. We have many members on here who can't work, can't socialise, can't even leave the house. Some members have turned to damaging levels of alcohol & drugs, a far worse decline to a doctor, such as the guy who was bedridden with his GF looking after him. What about those self harming? How about those in & out of hospital being sectioned? GP's get concerned when we start to struggle with everyday life like work.

And that isn't worse?

This is not to say that Phil isn't severe, that's for a professional to assess, I want to make that clear as Phil has his own beliefs about where he falls on the scale. But in comparison to other members we obviously have to be objective.

It's like how Helenhoo was seen as one of the worst sufferers due to posting a lot when the reality was she was maintaining a full time career, socialising and travelling. I'm betting there are peopleon that board who love to be able to maintain all that. Some things appear extreme in their isolation but in a wider context they may be less so.

That's not aimed at you pulisa and I realise you know all this, it's a general comment, I just wanted to pick up on the normal life thing. I do agree with you it's not really normal life but I just think he meant he gives out a perception there is nothing wrong.

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Really? So is your OCD just confined to the home?


So, like, at work the germs aren't an issue,nor when out and about, or staying with other people....or any other scenario....


if thats the case, then maybe there is merit in trying to harness whatever 'works' in the other environments. What do you think makes the difference?

I'll add to this. Is it because you don't have the time to think at work? Is it because you would feel the judgements of others would be worse?

But also it seems much of your anxiety would only exist at work in obsessing over what was bothering you that originated at home.

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I don't really understand what your psychiatrist is treating you for, that's why I suggested getting another diagnostic assessment. Maybe they should reassess the "bipolar episodes" and view them in context with your ongoing issues and escalating anxiety/difficulty accepting alternative viewpoints.

I agree with pulisa. I'm also concerned as to why you have been left on an anti psychotic for something that may or not be coming back? Even when on meds people with bipolar still struggle and if that's the case, do you have bipolar or even another similar form of Mood Disorder, and does it underpin your anxiety?

I realise you don't like talking about this but it would make sense to follow it up at least with your doctors.

I've been confused by what your diagnosis is. It sounded isolated. Now I question what those meds are doing. And whether alteration may help you with your OCD.

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https://www.nomorepanic.co.uk/showthread.php?t=174010

Im guessing it’s this topic?

Yes, that's him. Pretty much every thread he raised is about this.

He has been able to resist replacing.

[Carys]

I keep seeing people say this is so severe but I've seen far worse than this. I've seen far worse than this on here. I suspect if it wasn't for the replacing of expensive items, something I knew another member struggled with (expensive collectable watches), this would be pretty much nothing more than many members.

This is a very valid point - and I'm glad you brought it up as its made me think carefully on this - I think you are right. We are seeing a stream of consciousness of Phil at his worst times, when he is at home obsessing and anxious. We aren't seeing the Phil at all the other times, as he has said himself, many around him have no idea he has these issues.We aren't hearing and seeing Phil talking about anything BUT his OCD, as that is what he is here for, to talk about his OCD. I also fell into thinking this is 'severe', its expensive lol, but there are those who can't work/go out/function at all, who are quiet and not posting.

I realise you don't like talking about this but it would make sense to follow it up at least with your doctors.

I've been confused by what your diagnosis is. It sounded isolated. Now I question what those meds are doing. And whether alteration may help you with your OCD.

Likewise, I'm not sure what the meds are to treat, the diagnosis seems odd/vague. I see that on your very first post here, years ago (2015?), you talked about being on respiridone. Thats 5 years now then, and for something the psychiatrist thinks it was something 'one off'. I would agree, ask for a re-evaluation of everything and referral on NHS for long-term cbt? Nows your chance Phil, you have you 12 monthly psychiatrist meeting.

[phil06]

I had a one off bipolar episode at 16 and was on the same meds for 2 years and came off them for ten years until the breakdown.

It was in 2016 it happened they never knew what it was infact it was an acute stress reaction they said at first but later they said it was related to the bipolar I had in 2005.

They have been vauge with me at first they said I would need this medication all my days then someone said I wouldn’t need it. They mentioned cutting it back further which would mean I wouldn’t be on much at all. Given the breakdown I had and I was hospitalised I would have thoughts it’s safer to stay on these meds? They may want to be sure it won’t come back

That said I was off this med for ten years and fine however given how bad I was when I had the breakdown and I was 7 weeks recovering bed ridden I would have thought the med may help avoid any further bipolar episodes?

But no it’s not something I suffer daily..

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I think what he means is that it doesn't infringe on much of his life.

I keep seeing people say this is so severe but I've seen far worse than this. I've seen far worse than this on here. I suspect if it wasn't for the replacing of expensive items, something I knew another member struggled with (expensive collectable watches), this would be pretty much nothing more than many members.

They will assess it based on how much it is affecting his life and the time involved in obsessive-compulsive cycles. We have many members on here who can't work, can't socialise, can't even leave the house. Some members have turned to damaging levels of alcohol & drugs, a far worse decline to a doctor, such as the guy who was bedridden with his GF looking after him. What about those self harming? How about those in & out of hospital being sectioned? GP's get concerned when we start to struggle with everyday life like work.

And that isn't worse?

This is not to say that Phil isn't severe, that's for a professional to assess, I want to make that clear as Phil has his own beliefs about where he falls on the scale. But in comparison to other members we obviously have to be objective.

It's like how Helenhoo was seen as one of the worst sufferers due to posting a lot when the reality was she was maintaining a full time career, socialising and travelling. I'm betting there are peopleon that board who love to be able to maintain all that. Some things appear extreme in their isolation but in a wider context they may be less so.

That's not aimed at you pulisa and I realise you know all this, it's a general comment, I just wanted to pick up on the normal life thing. I do agree with you it's not really normal life but I just think he meant he gives out a perception there is nothing wrong.

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I'll add to this. Is it because you don't have the time to think at work? Is it because you would feel the judgements of others would be worse?

But also it seems much of your anxiety would only exist at work in obsessing over what was bothering you that originated at home.

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I agree with pulisa. I'm also concerned as to why you have been left on an anti psychotic for something that may or not be coming back? Even when on meds people with bipolar still struggle and if that's the case, do you have bipolar or even another similar form of Mood Disorder, and does it underpin your anxiety?

I realise you don't like talking about this but it would make sense to follow it up at least with your doctors.

I've been confused by what your diagnosis is. It sounded isolated. Now I question what those meds are doing. And whether alteration may help you with your OCD.

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Yes, that's him. Pretty much every thread he raised is about this.

He has been able to resist replacing.

I do have time to think at work but not much time really sometimes I focus on the job.

No I don’t think others will judge I mean who would know what my items have touched to most it would be irrelevant however to me I like stuff to be clean and perfect otherwise I will have this anxiety especially as I fear toilet germs or dirty washing germs until I can beat these I may remain stuck

[Carys]

sometimes I focus on the job.

I hope its more than 'sometimes'. I also hope you aren't an air traffic controller.



Just thinking, then if distraction works for you, then could there be more distractions at home - hobbies/interests? It sounds like also when you have visitors you are better. Maybe the same thing - they provide distraction.

[pulisa]

I was wondering whether you ever use humour to diffuse your anxiety? As opposed to getting angry with yourself (and sometimes others)?