Hypnic jolts and sleep issues.

[Kingdawson]

Hi guys, I'm new to this forum so bear with me.

So I've been suffering from health anxiety for 4 or so years but 2017 has been ridiculous in a sense that I can't seem to control it.

My issue for the last 3 or so months was that I had (or thought I had developed tinnitus). This 'tinnitus' was very very mild in which I thought I could hear a sound in dead silence (specifically in my left ear). I started thinking maybe It wasnt tinnitus when I could block my ears and hear nothing. Anyway this sound (that was barely noticeable in dead silence) eventually left my brain and I couldn't really hear it any more (maybe it was the anxiety?). Anyway it did it's damage in regards to having terrible sleep to the point that I actually panicked about bedtime. Going to sleep was fine but when I woke up it has been a struggle.

This last week I have suffered from hypnic jolts which has made my issues with sleep harder. Jusy about to sleep and bammm hypnic jolts attack. It's just so annoying.

I know the issue is regarding my anxiety of sleep and the sleep issues I am suffering so I will eventually win this mental struggle....but right now I'm at the "oh god this is gonna last forever stage" which sucks.

Any tips on how I can beat these sleep and hypnic jerks issues?

[Bigboyuk]

Hi Kingdawson I too have sleep issues but don't have the jolts but it's annoying to say the least. A couple of things to try is lavender oil on your pillow or herbal sleeping pills both are natural and safe give them a go and let us know how you get on ATB

[katniss]

Make sure you're not exercising too close to bedtime and avoid heavy meals 2 hours before you sleep. If you really do need some help sleeping but don't want to go the prescription meds route, try taking melatonin. It's herbal

[Mindprison]

Sorry to hear you're suffering from this too, i've been getting the same symptoms this past year.

I don't really have any advice to share on how to stop them or manage them since nothing I do seems to work and they don't always happen every night so it's too unpredictable.

What I tend to do when i'm having a rough night with them is open the window (even if it's freezing) just for a little while and change my position in the bed. It doesn't always work, but I seem to have a little more success doing that.

And reminding yourself that it's nothing serious but more of an annoyance also helps. I find that the more worked up and irritated you get, the longer it goes on. Sadly the cycle feeds itself but I hope you get some relief from it soon!

[Kingdawson]

Hi guys just an update..

3 weeks in and these damn jolts are still there. It just makes sleeping really difficult but I am happy that I know it's anxiety related so will eventually solve itself. I really don't want to go the prescribed medication route for sleep or anxiety so hopefully CBT will help me feel less tense. It just sucks that I start the day in a bad mood because of lack of sleep which makes things an uphill battle from the start. The only times I don't get the jolts is when I'm completely calm (hardly ever) or if I've drunk alcohol and I definitely don't want to go that route on a nightly basis. I think about sleep throughout the day which is also a losing battle for actually getting decent sleep when night time is here. Any tips guys would be greatly appreciated?

Anyway I will beat this eventually and you will all beat whatever anxiety issues you are suffering from. I'm just really annoyed at myself for letting everything get this far.

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It also sucks that before my 2017 bout of anxiety I was known as the sleep/nap king and now this latest issue makes me feel I can never truly have a decent sleep/nap again. Damn you anxiety.

[worrywart29]

I use to get Hypnic jolts a lot. It use to drive me crazy. One day while doing one of my many google searches, I came across a forum where someone said they use magnesium oil on the bottom of their feet before bed and haven’t had anymore jerks. I ordered some magnesium oil and before bed rubbed the bottom of my feet with it. That night was the first night that I wasn’t jolted awake. Research it, I think it may help you too.

[Kingdawson]

I use to get Hypnic jolts a lot. It use to drive me crazy. One day while doing one of my many google searches, I came across a forum where someone said they use magnesium oil on the bottom of their feet before bed and haven’t had anymore jerks. I ordered some magnesium oil and before bed rubbed the bottom of my feet with it. That night was the first night that I wasn’t jolted awake. Research it, I think it may help you too.

Cheers for the advice mate. Is there any specific type of magnesium oil I should be looking out for? Had a horrible night last night.

[MyNameIsTerry]

Cheers for the advice mate. Is there any specific type of magnesium oil I should be looking out for? Had a horrible night last night.

It will be transdermal magnesium, which will be magnesium chloride. Just make sure it's from the Zechstein Sea otherwise it's from much more inferior sources of extraction from the US. It comes mostly as an oil but you can get bath flakes to soak in it too or even gel forms.

Epsom salts is another form of transdermal magnesium but it's not as good.

Try to look for ones that also say the mg content too so you know the concentration. They often say mg per teaspoon.

They say rub it in the soles of your feet because it won't sting. It only stings because it is touching an area of magnesium deficiency. I used it for ages (need to restart it ) and it worked great on my joints (thought I was getting osteoarthritis) but I spread it on my lower legs, back, forearms, etc. Some days it would sting. It's not painful, just like rubbing a cut or graze really. I rubbed it into cuts a few times by mistake, which they tell you not to as it's a salt after all, and that did burn a bit. Some even rub it into their heads for migraines.

It's healthy stuff, it won't do any harm. Most people are likely deficient anyway. It does get used in hundreds of body functions so it might mean playing around with the dosage as they will be trying to use it too. Mg dosing may mean going above RDA's but there is plenty of advice out there from specialists.

I've always found that the jolts are more present in higher anxiety stages. Once you get them down, the jolts largely go or reduce in intensity. I still get the odd one now but the reaction is very different to back then when they were a scary symptom.

[Careful1]

I agree with worrywart29 and Terry, magnesium really does work... I use it as well...

[natzsteveo]

I get this badly as well I get it even when im asleep so I get it as I'm drifting when im asleep and even now im awake I'll jolt t's awful so where do I get this magnesium oil from
Nat