The Dr Who Gave Up Drugs (BBC 1)

[pulisa]

So the doctor said that you just have to make it through the day and that meds aren't always the answer...We all know this though. I did read an article in The Times where a severely depressed girl had been "cured" by spending a day in the woods-was this featured on the programme? If it were that easy surely the psychiatrists and psychologists would lose all their business...and anxiety/depression is Big Business these days after all..

[Bigboyuk]

So the doctor said that you just have to make it through the day and that meds aren't always the answer...We all know this though. I did read an article in The Times where a severely depressed girl had been "cured" by spending a day in the woods-was this featured on the programme? If it were that easy surely the psychiatrists and psychologists would lose all their business...and anxiety/depression is Big Business these days after all..

Yes and I think he was right to say this the poor girl never left her room for years and was drugged up come it's no life is it I don't think it was featured in this programme but it was something similar along those lines. This is where the shortfall of this sort of help is needed some groups how ever do great things. Oh for sure it's big bucks for the psychiatrists and psychologists they would rather stick to what they have done for years rakeing it in ATB

[MyNameIsTerry]

Now he just needs to put forward his plan to increase the NHS budget five fold so we all have a doctor (and they will need specific mental health training) on tap.

It's like saying more mortality rates of heart attack patients can be stopped by having a cardiologist following you around all day every day with a full defib kit ready.

There are better ways but who is going to pay for them? Generic drugs are dirt cheap. So is it just the doctors or does the attitude come from on high? We could all have better treatment tomorrow as long as we don't mind other services taking a major hit to pay for it.

Also GP's are so stretched for time and money and know getting into therapy can take months. They can be faced with the difficult decision of letting you sit at home suffering on a waiting list or try meds and hope for the best.

I'm skeptical like pulisa. The NHS, via the BBC, a while back were reporting Pregabalin was causing deaths & addiction in Northern Ireland. They based their report solely on addicts to push for banning a drug. The figures provided by the NHS showed a breakdown of England, Wales, Scotland, NI which showed a disproportionate level of prescribing of this med in NI.

Now, it's a med used for pain relief too. I can remember quite a lot of violence in NI ...something not even mentioned in the report. The NHS just wanted to ban it, no further research suggested. That just stinks of cost cutting to me.

It's always same with Pregabalin, they focus on substance misuse to tar everyone with the same brush. The one about prisoners getting high off it was just comical... It's not like drugs are a known problem in prison now is it

[pulisa]

I think GPs use anti depressants like a broad spectrum antibiotic-prescribe the cheapest/one Big Pharma are pushing- first, send patient away with a 2 month prescription and forget about them until patient comes back either agitated to high heaven shortly afterwards or feeling better and wanting a new script..Trial and error with potent psychotropic drugs. It would be good to be able to access a doctor at the drop of a hat but that's not reality (unless you pay through the nose for it and even then this doesn't always happen).
I got offered gabapentin or pregabalin for my nerve pain but turned it down due to the addictive nature of these drugs. The GP said she was aware of this too.

[MyNameIsTerry]

(Where is Christian Jessen? Hopefully stagnating in some seedy media backwater)

CBB? Celebrity Come Dine With me?



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So the doctor said that you just have to make it through the day and that meds aren't always the answer...We all know this though. I did read an article in The Times where a severely depressed girl had been "cured" by spending a day in the woods-was this featured on the programme? If it were that easy surely the psychiatrists and psychologists would lose all their business...and anxiety/depression is Big Business these days after all..

Looks like it's a new thing:

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-...oods-1.2685975

For years mental health charities have be pushing for more green projects and the government have been funding national programmes. But it's to help, it's not a cure.

There have been anxiety "gurus" who offer weekend retreats too. They tend to put you through days of relaxation therapies and support to then ask you to score your anxiety reduction then make the claim to have "cured" you.

Anyone who says it's that simple is talking BS as we all know. Just like the drug companies who run an 8 week trial, find the drug lowers anxiety and get it licenced without any follow up of how those patients are longer term. What would they? They can sit back and cream it in. Imagine doing that with a cancer drug?

[Bigboyuk]

Just finished watching ep1 which was a eye opener in many ways and Iam convinced that there is a huge over use of certain childrens medications like Calpol interestingly even if a child has a very high temp 40 C instantly parents reach for the Calpol A specialist in a leading hospital talked to dr Chris about this and clearly states it's a childs unique defence system that crank the body temp up to kill the viruses by using Calpol which will bring the body temp down actually can cause more harm than good. And several children take part in mindfulness through a leading specialist from Amsterdam with good results and no side effects. So any one watched ep 1 yet and would like to comment on what they think!!? ATB