Copyright Directive Panic

[FrankT]

Guys, this is an emergency! The fate of the free world is at stake! The corporatists are desperate and Article 13 can give them the opportunity to regain the upper hand. You should know that a law like this could mark the beginning of a totalitarian future, because it is impossible to predict how the big companies will abuse it! As you can imagine, I'm terrified. If this goes through I'll have to leave the country, and I can't take that! Please... tell me there's a good side in all this...?

[MyNameIsTerry]

Well, one thing that springs to mind is that this is from the EU and last I looked they could only impact their member states:

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-cont...EX:52016PC0593

Until we understand what Brexit will even be we won't have a clue how the UK is affected.

Given companies like Facebook just ship out of the EU to avoid things they don't want to do I wonder how ISSP's might respond? And will the EU be able to stop anyone outside of their jurisdiction allowing users within their jurisdiction still doing it?

[nomorepanic]

I have no idea what it is - can you explain?


Why do you have to leave the country?

[MyNameIsTerry]

I have no idea what it is - can you explain?


Why do you have to leave the country?

Me neither, had to look it up. A bit of a quiet potential future EU directive. Look towards the bottom of that link.

There are a few online articles about it. It seems to be an attempt to prevent copyright infringement by forcing ISSPs to add technology to stop it or find infringements.

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On another note, Uganda are imposing a social media tax. That would help the NHS if we did it, diamond encrusted beds all round from the cash that would rake in

[FrankT]

https://saveyourinternet.eu/about-this-campaign/

"Article 13 is a provision in the proposed EU Copyright Directive mandating that all content uploaded to the internet be monitored and potentially deleted if a likeness to existing copyrighted content is detected. This provision will be voted on by the end of 2018."

"If you are a creator or independent business, the content that you upload to share with your audience might be deleted without your consent. Creators include but are not limited to artists –such as cartoonists, gamers, illustrators, photographers, documentary filmmakers, animators, musicians, DJs, and dancers,– bloggers, journalists, and technologists."

"Online platforms will be required to implement complex and expensive filtering systems and will be held liable for copyright infringement, potentially incurring fines that threaten their economic viability."

This would be disastrous. We wouldn't be able to create anything anymore!

[nomorepanic]

I don't think it is disastrous at all - it is stopping people stealing other people's work.


Why do you have to leave the country over this - I don't understand.

[Bigboyuk]

I don't think it is disastrous at all - it is stopping people stealing other people's work.


Why do you have to leave the country over this - I don't understand.

Nor me Nic cant see what all the fuss is about and really don't give a monkey's about it there's more important things to worry about ATB

[Fishmanpa]

there's more important things to worry about ATB

True, but then again, is it any different or irrational than a brain eating amoeba or the myriad of irrational fears posted here?

Positive thoughts

[Bigboyuk]

True, but then again, is it any different or irrational than a brain eating amoeba or the myriad of irrational fears posted here?

Positive thoughts

True I guess it's another fear to some people Have you read the article? ATB

[MyNameIsTerry]

True I guess it's another fear to some people Have you read the article? ATB

Well it could be a problem for any website including this one. All those memes we've posted on here for instance would be illegal as the owner hasn't agreed their use on here.

Imagine any of us cut & pasting sections of websites, we would have to ensure the owner has stated that's allowed and how is Nic going to know? And Nic would also have to have a policy about use of info on here that she owns.

But it's a very vague policy and as such is likely to get thrashed out into something a bit more realistic. At the moment it's open to the conspiracy theorist.

But then don't the EU parliament vote down various bilge raised?

Anyway I thought the internet was going to collapse because the government want age verification and people buying porn passes from the local newsagent? "A pack of polos, copy of The Times and oh, erm, a porn pass please"