Worried about climate change

[MRS STRESS ED]

Not necessarily. I could clog some factory chimneys so the noxious fumes don't get out! If sabotage is the only recourse, then so be it!

Frank we all are responsible and if each and everyone of us made a small change it would make a difference,
But sabotage no no no not the way to go apart getting you in a whole load of trouble xx

[Fishmanpa]

I could clog some factory chimneys so the noxious fumes don't get out! If sabotage is the only recourse, then so be it!

They don't allow internet in prison.

Positive thoughts

[FrankT]

You're right, stupid idea. The only real recourse is to get off the planet before it becomes uninhabitable. Oh wait, no, there are no passenger flights off the planet!

[jray23]

Or you can just walk to higher ground. Yes, climate change is going to reshape the world's land. It's not going to happen overnight though. Humans will adapt. The real danger is in increased intensity and frequency of storms, but that still won't affect most of us too directly.

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[FrankT]

But you know what the worst part is? With our leaders, there's no hope that things will get better. If anything it's only going to get worse.

[jray23]

But that isn't even true. Ignore the orange guy in the white mansion over here on the left side of the pond for awhile and think about it. Perhaps we are moving too slowly but there is a action being taken.

Think about where we are compared to a generation ago! There are many environmental laws worldwide, global agreements signed by nearly every country, etc. Recycling is commonplace. Some companies already are or have the goal of becoming self-sufficient. None of this was happening in 1998 or was just getting started at best. Things ARE getting better. The news tells you otherwise but they just want to rile you up so that you end up watching more news!!!

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[FrankT]

Well, if there are so many environmental laws, how come the problem's getting worse and worse?

[Fishmanpa]

Well, if there are so many environmental laws, how come the problem's getting worse and worse?

Because at the heart of it all, mankind is stupid. And now more than ever, with the internet and being able to see and experience the world nearly instantaneously, we get to see all this glorious stupidity at the click of a button. Ohhh, we think we're smart but we're just a blip of light in the big scheme of things. Unless the future turns into some Star Trek Federation Socialist Utopian society where the world comes together to represent humans, we'll go extinct and the earth will continue on for millions of more years in one shape or another.

Look, if some 42,000 year old frozen worms can come back to life, I think Mother Earth will do just fine when we're gone

Positive thoughts

[jray23]

Well, if there are so many environmental laws, how come the problem's getting worse and worse?

Could be too little too late. Could be that it takes a long period of time to change things. Could be that none of it really matters at all anyway and like Fishmanpa says, the earth will be just fine. 150 years of statistics out of 4 billion is hardly enough to be a good sample size. Perhaps we're on our way back to the average for all we know. We don't know much besides being able to identify the current statistical trendline. Hopefully we're intelligent enough as a whole to try and alleviate potential problems but even if we're not, the earth will be fine and even us muddling humans will likely be fine for the most part too in the long run.

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[otterman]

Hi frankT,
I suffer from GAD and most of my life i have spent worrying about one thing or another to the point where it becomes obsessive. I went through the end of the world scenario many years ago, global warming, greenhouse gases ext, then i learned that 2000 years ago when the Romans occupied britain, they built there ports and harbours on the coast line at the time. But now the ruins of these are all miles inland, meaning the climate was much warmer then than now, and the see levels must have been much higher.
Man kind isn't helping the current situation, and you would have to be a fool to say otherwise, but nature is a very complex thing, and ultimately its the sun that runs the show, which its estimated will burn for another couple of million of years.
I know what its like to worry constantly, its awful and you have my sympathy 100%
All the best, Otterman...