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    Re: Dirty laundry germs

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueIris View Post
    Unfortunately, the only way to break through the anxiety is to learn to sit with it, and there's no quick and easy fix to help with that.
    Yes I mean when something becomes “contaminated” I won’t touch it for example a radiator, I won’t use the strimmer on the bottom of gardens near bins now I worry about the table. Basically I avoid using stuff and certain areas. I still won’t use a phone case that comes through the letter box. It’s avoidance behaviour however sadly this lasts for months or years. I duno how I can get over this

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    Re: Dirty laundry germs

    Quote Originally Posted by phil06 View Post
    I duno how I can get over this
    Real. Life. Professional. Help.

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    Re: Dirty laundry germs

    https://www.mind.org.uk/information-.../#.XMAi4KTTVPY

    Hi Phil, as listed on this page above OCD Action offer online resources, links to local groups and various things for self-help.

    https://www.ocdaction.org.uk/support...31&layers=00BT

    OCD Uk have some similar things...

    http://www.ocduk.org/support-groups/

    Both sites have telephone numbers, you could call and ask for links to self-help resources.

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    Re: Dirty laundry germs

    Terry said this........

    Phil's psychiatrist actually offered a different form of therapy not long ago and I've asked him about it on here more than once but get no response.

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    Re: Dirty laundry germs

    Quote Originally Posted by Carys View Post
    Terry said this........
    Yes progressive muscular relaxation some use that was recommending YouTube.

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    Re: Dirty laundry germs

    Quote Originally Posted by phil06 View Post
    Yes progressive muscular relaxation some use that was recommending YouTube.
    That's not what I thought was implied by this...

    https://www.nomorepanic.co.uk/showth...ed#post1838064

    Quote Originally Posted by phil06 View Post
    Yep I mean the type of therapy he discussed was a psychologist to teach relaxation and said YouTube was better. I just don’t think they want to offer Cbt sadly.
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    I could have a few more private sessions in hope of it working eventually I’m not one for chapping in doctors doors demanding help I’m more reserved that way and don’t like to go


    A psychologist is more advanced than anyone we would see in the IAPT network. They have a greater range of therapies to try.

    I would imagine it would be something like Applied Relaxation. That's on the list for GAD in NICE guidelines as an alternative to CBT. Someone else on here has had it (we never seem to hear about it down here even though IAPT should be able to provide it) and said it was very helpful to them. She had OCD and she was severe.
    PMR isn't something I would regard as needing a psychologist to treat. IAPT just give you a worksheet. There is very little to learn. But AR is a form of therapy that has evolved from this and would be conducted over a similar number of sessions as something like CBT. It's not just about relaxation, it's about learning to change your stress response to a calming one.

    So, which did your psychiatrist mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyNameIsTerry View Post
    That's not what I thought was implied by this...



    PMR isn't something I would regard as needing a psychologist to treat. IAPT just give you a worksheet. There is very little to learn. But AR is a form of therapy that has evolved from this and would be conducted over a similar number of sessions as something like CBT. It's not just about relaxation, it's about learning to change your stress response to a calming one.

    So, which did your psychiatrist mean?
    Well he never told me to see anyone he told me use YouTube. He was happy for me to keep paying for private Cbt if I wanted but wouldn’t put me on nhs list.

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    Re: Dirty laundry germs

    But yes how can I deal with items or areas I won’t touch anymore due to the ocd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phil06 View Post
    But yes how can I deal with items or areas I won’t touch anymore due to the ocd?
    Real. Life. Professional. Help.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carys View Post
    https://www.mind.org.uk/information-.../#.XMAi4KTTVPY

    Hi Phil, as listed on this page above OCD Action offer online resources, links to local groups and various things for self-help.

    https://www.ocdaction.org.uk/support...31&layers=00BT

    OCD Uk have some similar things...

    http://www.ocduk.org/support-groups/

    Both sites have telephone numbers, you could call and ask for links to self-help resources.
    Positive thoughts
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    Re: Dirty laundry germs

    Quote Originally Posted by phil06 View Post
    Well he never told me to see anyone he told me use YouTube. He was happy for me to keep paying for private Cbt if I wanted but wouldn’t put me on nhs list.
    It's a total cop out for him to say YouTube is better. Not someone who's professional opinion amounts to much in my opinion. What was the point of him dangling a carrot knowing he would never offer it really? A case of NHS doctors trying to dissuade patients from pushing for treatment...
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