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Thread: Caffeine, anxiety's no.1 evil potion.

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    Re: Caffeine, anxiety's no.1 evil potion.

    Quote Originally Posted by DustingMyselfOff View Post
    Everything in moderation. I don't ever want to give anything up completely because then your body reacts strongly when the item is re-introduced (either intentionally or accidentally). If I could stay at 2-3 cups a day I think that's a good number.
    Sue
    I don't agree with that. If you're struggling to recover, then quit. Let go of past vices. My body didn't react strongly when I reintroduced it, although it would have done if I had a triple espresso.

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    Re: Caffeine, anxiety's no.1 evil potion.

    If you are happy with and enjoy your 2-3 cups of coffee a day I'd say stick with that, Sue. I'd disagree that caffeine is a vice provided it's not drunk later on in the day. We all need to have things in life we enjoy in moderation?

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    Re: Caffeine, anxiety's no.1 evil potion.

    That's fine, but my point is about people struggling to recover. My observation is that DMO is struggling to recover. Caffeine is a significant stimulant, and known to aggravate anxiety. Just because you're used to it, doesn't mean it's not having a negative effect.

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    Re: Caffeine, anxiety's no.1 evil potion.

    Thanks for the thoughts and replies. I actually agree with both of you: if I were still struggling with anxiety that I couldn't seem to get under control, then it would definitely be time to try cutting caffeine completely. But, for the past week or so I have been feeling pretty darn good mentally and mostly anxiety free. Not sure what or why, just grateful, and also know that it's apt to sneak back up on me when I least expect it.

    I really think my anxiety ebbs and flows when things change physiologically, mostly my fluctuating TSH levels. I also notice more anxiety if I indulge in sweets too much, probably set off by blood sugar issues?

    I still remember my doctor, who I adored, not even batting an eyelash 30 years ago when I told him I drank about 10 cups of coffee a day and asked him if I should try to cut back. He said that of course I should try to bring that number down but that that intake wasn't the reason for my "all of a sudden" drastic increase in anxiety and panic attacks. He said that we should be able to get it under control without me making any drastic dietary changes because if I were getting away with that much coffee before, to all of a sudden have it be the main cause of my increased anxiety was not likely and he didn't want me to put any additional stress on my body by trying to go through caffeine withdrawal.

    Thanks again - appreciate all opinions and comments.
    Sue

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    Re: Caffeine, anxiety's no.1 evil potion.

    Quote Originally Posted by DustingMyselfOff View Post

    I still remember my doctor, who I adored, not even batting an eyelash 30 years ago when I told him I drank about 10 cups of coffee a day and asked him if I should try to cut back. He said that of course I should try to bring that number down but that that intake wasn't the reason for my "all of a sudden" drastic increase in anxiety and panic attacks. He said that we should be able to get it under control without me making any drastic dietary changes because if I were getting away with that much coffee before, to all of a sudden have it be the main cause of my increased anxiety was not likely and he didn't want me to put any additional stress on my body by trying to go through caffeine withdrawal.
    This is bunkum I'm afraid. The stress of withdrawal is minimal and short term.

    Your Doctor was isolating a potential cause of anxiety at one cause, which is almost never the case. Stress is almost always a compound trigger, and doesn't always have to be perceived as stress. People who love to succeed at work (for example) and spend 65 hours a week at the office drinking gallons of coffee.....100% stress. We're simply not designed to live that way, and our minds and bodies suffer over time because of it. Not to mention all the other little side project stresses that life has a habit of throwing our way on top of the pile.

    Once anxiety hits, it's not a linear slope down that you can simply turn around and walk back out of. It's like falling off a cliff, and in most respects means that something you could handle yesterday, can't be handled any more. You have to come back to absolute basics to truly let your system recover.

    I'm glad you're feeling better now though. It sounds like you're finding the post corporate balance that you need right now

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    Re: Caffeine, anxiety's no.1 evil potion.

    Hi Joe.
    I agree with your explanation of stress and anxiety, and I, too, was always looking for that ONE thing that caused it so I could eliminate that and be anxiety free. Now that we are anxiety experts, we know that's not possible nor the case. And looking back, yes, I think he probably should have told me to slowly work my way out of caffeine, but with all that was going on in my life at that point, it was probably the one thing that was keeping me upright and functional (albeit filled with anxiety).

    Actually, now that I'm not working and living that 65 hours a week stress of a global job, I do understand that there is not ONE magic bullet (or pill) that will make it all go away. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if anyone who is required to continue that stressful lifestyle would be able to get a handle on their anxiety very well because that job stress is a necessary evil.

    I'm just grateful that I am on my way out of it, and wish I had the answer for those who are 20 or 30 years behind me and struggling with this.
    Sue

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