Can NHS direct refer you to crisis team?

[Carnation]

Cass, you cyst has gone now, that proves it wasn't what you thought it was. x

[Carys]

Okay there is a lot there to try and process, starting with the gallbladder, do you have a reason for being denied 'binders' ? Can you contact the original hospital/surgeon or specialist you were under at the time and request they review the fact you think you need 'binders' ?

I think underlying all of this does seem to be pervasive Health Anxiety, and I'm not saying you don't have symptoms or some genuine physical problems but because they are currently out of perspective you are fearing that there is something far more sinister.

I can see why you feel desperate, and everything feels a mess, but as you have young children you will know that 'not being here' is not the way out and will cause extraordinary pain to them, and your husband, for the rest of their lives. I can also feel you think you are being let down by doctors, but also looking back at your threads I can see that you have a fear of doctors, medical tests and even going to see them. I believe in some areas you can self-refer to mental health services, but don't know if you are in one of those areas, a google could give some suggestions ?

The other suggestion I have is to go and see another doctor with your husband in the room with you, to act as advocate and witness to what is being said. I know you had some things you posted about recently that you do need to go and talk to them about, but are scared to do so, so write that list out and go with someone else.

[Dying_Swan]

I'm not sure if they can refer to the crisis team. It probably depends on how things are set up in your area. They can decide to send an ambulance out to you, who then decide if you need to go to A&E. Once in A&E they might get you to see the psych team, but again I suspect it's a postcode lottery. Have you considered talking things through with the Samaritans? 116 123.

[MamaCass]

Thats my frustration Carn. Its how i feel but because of the kids i cant mention it to them in fear of what may happen. They have a good home life and are well looked after and provided for. I cant sit another day with them seeing me laid in bed like this they dont deserve it....and neither do the rest of my family. Im at my lowest point ever in 18 yrs. I feel like im done. My cancer fear to others sounds ridiculous but its so very real in my head. For the last 12 months thats all ive thought about for near enough 20 hours a day. Ive tried crosswords, crochet, drawing just to get some relief but nothing. I feel totally empty and lost, overwhelmed, fearful and suffocated. I never thought id get to this stage where im crying out for help. I might as well be in the middle of the desert shouting at the top of my lungs for all the good its doing.
Im glad i have people like you carn that gets me. I appreciate that x

[Carys]

I can hear in your words how low you are - why not get your husband to ring the surgery and get a GP to see you today and go together ?

[MamaCass]

Carys....im in the butt end of Wales. GPs here are useless. The hospital look at you weird, i went in September asked to see the crisis team. He dismissed it and said just go home and have a hot water bottle! Regards the binders. They just say alot of people have trouble with that after they have them removed like it doesnt affect the persons confidence whether they are going to soil themselves in public with neon yellow diarrhea in any given moment. Im sorry to sound so graphic but its true.

Dying swan....i hope this doesn't come accross rude or any thing as not intended so please dont take it that way. But I need medication not a chit chat x

[ankietyjoe]

Having been in constant contact with a crisis team for the last 18 months for my partner, my instinct would suggest that no. You're not even close to qualifying for a crisis team.

This may be a hard pill to swallow, but the issue here is your thought pattern, for the most part. This constant focus on cancer is the thing you need to get a hold of. That's the only important thing to deal with at this point. Trying other things takes time, it will take months to reprogram your brain not to think about cancer, but there is no other solution to this. You need to develop habits that counter your normal reaction to negative thoughts, and completely ban yourself from google, 100% There are no exceptions to this, Google is banned.

"I do not have cancer, and I want to enjoy time with my children".

When I had HA I used to say that (often out loud) to myself literally hundreds of times a week. You need to re-learn what it's like to have normal thought patterns. I don't care if it's hard, I know it's hard. I don't care if it 'seems' real to you, that doesn't actually make it real.

Next time you're laying in bed (and I did this for months myself), get up and go and sit with them for just 5 minutes. Smile, ask them how they are. Even if you feel like utter shit. Do it anyway. By doing this you are telling your subconscious that you are actually ok.

It will take months to reprogram the bad habits you've learned, so start now.

[MamaCass]

Carys....im sorry if i come accross wrong. I appreciate all of your replies and help. Im just very frustrated and its not aimed at anyone here. I have 2 children that have half day in school on a friday so they are home. We dont have anyone to watch them x

[Carnation]

Cass, I think the meds you have been taking has made you worse! Remember not so long ago when you were shopping for Christmas pressies?
I know you are suffering hun and maybe hubby could go with you to the GP. Personally I think you need sleep. You've had many a late night on chat.
You'd be surprised how sleep can repair.
I have health anxiety and depression too and feel all those things you feel. But we have to keep going.
Don't worry about what your kids think of you being in bed.
My mum spent a good 7 years in bed or on the couch, I still loved her and understand when I was older. x

[Carys]

OK, there are two issues here the gallbladder removal and the 'binders' you want to discuss. So, why not do as I suggest and contact the hospital/surgeon who did your original surgery and request some support with your GP.

The second is that you need to help yourself here regarding the cancer fear (which I believe you have no evidence of). I think too that you should get out of bed, you are lying there alone with your thoughts (Yep, been there and done that too!) and the reality is being more and more distorted. Your HA is crippling you right now, making you anxious and depressed and I'm sure you also do have better times so focus on those better times and remind yourself that they can and will return. Can you think of any recently ?

I took no offence at your reply at all.

We dont have anyone to watch them

Not sure what this means - I think you need to watch them )