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    There we go, a shut mind, what a shame to not even try. AS expected.

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    I disagree about the group approach, it's not for everyone. These conditions can be very embarrassing and some will just turn inside themselves wasting a place in the group.

    Also some forms of OCD are very emotive. It's not easy to talk to a therapist if you are a parent having intrusive thoughts about abusing a child. Doing that in a mixed anxiety group can bring the risk of it being discussed outside the group by those ignorant to these themes. I can think of several occasions on here alone where members have been subject to ignorance by others here and made to feel like potential sex offenders.

    Since Phil doesn't have such themes a group setting is safer but let's not generalise about how people should approach this. Initially I wouldn't do group settings as I was too embarrassed as a man, a problem with treating men's health, but later felt confident enough to do it via walk-in talk groups.

    Also it's a false comparison with NMP. No one here knows who we are.

    Phil, please take what you can. I suggest asking to talk to someone about the format of the sessions and your expected involvement. There might be less pressure involved than you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carys View Post
    There we go, a shut mind, what a shame to not even try. AS expected.
    I never thought it would be so hard to get one to one CBT via the NHS. Maybe others have had other luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulisa View Post
    Stress control sounds ideal for you but if you've shut your mind to it then it's hopeless to try to persuade you.

    Good that you are considering going private in a few months though ...So you DO believe that you will survive coronavirus despite all your prophecies of doom!
    I recall this, pulisa. It was actually an alternative treatment to CBT used by the NHS and in the NICE pathway. You may remember Kimberley had it and said it really helped her. It's about learning to relax at the point a trigger occurs. We can't seem to get it under IAPT and we rarely hear of it on NMP in my time on here. It would be a good treatment for many of us!
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    Isn't this stress control/relaxation that Phil is being offered.....in the group ? Which is why it seems a good idea to everyone ? I've read your reply above Terry about groups are not for everyone, but this isn't a group about discussing his private mental health problems, its different. (from how he describes it) I'm sorry, but I think this is Phil being hell-bent on one thing and one thing alone that he wants, and not willing to give this a try. Surely there is nothing to lose - if he's going to get himself private CBT anyway, then this could be an additional support. It is good advice that he rings and asks the format of the sessions, to determine the input needed, but in all honesty I think he's made the decision already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carys View Post
    Isn't this stress control Phil is being offered.....in the group ? WHich is why it seems a good idea ?
    I'm lost on that one, Carys. What I mentioned to pulisa above was a lot longer than a few weeks ago so it sounds like they offered a stress control thing again but have switched it to group CBT because he turned it down.

    One thing is for sure, if he turns this one down they will start questioning whether he actually wants help. They may just remove him from the list. They need to be aware of barriers to accessing treatment so they know they are not being messed about.
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    Oh I thought it was the other way around, ummmm, I'm lost now too......LOL Ummmm, at the start of this thread he says that it is....oh let me check.....

    I mentioned a few weeks back they referred me for CBT they offered a relaxation class I declined. Got a letter today about it they said call to confirm so I called and they took my details said they would call back but never did. I got a letter with it saying it would be a classroom set up 7 sessions it wasn’t group based but it said all chairs face the front? It says the course teaches stress control.

    I asked them if it was group based the person on the phone had little idea. I am disappointed if it is group based and I doubt I would want to go. I was hoping for one to one CBT which is did privately. It shows the lack of resources on my area if it is group based. Money is tight right now so can’t instantly book more private CBT but I may have to consider in a few months going private again. I feel let down by the NHS near me I once did have one to one seasons but when I was 16. It’s very disappointing if I have to spend more money.
    This sounds like the group stress control session, where it sounds like it is taught in a learning environment type of way, that he is turning down (and not group cbt )?

    So, what I mean is that he has nothing to lose with these 7 sessions, he currently hasn't got CBT on either the NHS or privately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyNameIsTerry View Post
    I'm lost on that one, Carys. What I mentioned to pulisa above was a lot longer than a few weeks ago so it sounds like they offered a stress control thing again but have switched it to group CBT because he turned it down.

    One thing is for sure, if he turns this one down they will start questioning whether he actually wants help. They may just remove him from the list. They need to be aware of barriers to accessing treatment so they know they are not being messed about.
    Not to worry I would be telling them to remove me from the list if it’s group based. Whilst not ideal I would pay for more CBT or I may hold off and do nothing. There should be no shame in saying something isn’t for me. I have to be comfortable and I have always been honest and upfront and said no group sessions. Things are not too bad right now compared to previous months so I won’t be rushing out for private CBT but if things get worse I would go back as atleast it’s one to one sessions.

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    It doesn't sound like a 'group session' that you imagine it to be Phil, its a group of people sat in a classroom type format learning from the teacher !!

    Turning things down, any help, sounds like you aren't really that interested in help !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carys View Post
    It doesn't sound like a 'group session' that you imagine it to be Phil, its a group of people sat in a classroom type format learning from the teacher !!

    Turning things down, any help, sounds like you aren't really that interested in help !!!
    Not atall but a general question it anybody here has had CBT has it been one to one?

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