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    Re: Covid-19 discussion thread

    Sir Van Morrison, 3 new protest songs condemning lockdowns. I always liked that Irishman.

    https://www.deseret.com/platform/amp...-new-music-u-k

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    Re: Covid-19 discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by MyNameIsTerry View Post
    Something to remember, as ever, is there is no comparison between now and then. We don't have the data unless you use the studies that have attempted to determine what the true rate might have been. Then how does it compare? For instance, is the spike as sharp? We know it can't be because even without the full data the earlier spike was cliff edge compared to the slow then sharper increases in trend we are seeing now. Plus we are better at testing so there needs to be a % determined to account for that as compared to earlier where no tracing would have happened (unless they add that % into their estimates for earlier in the year).

    The 7 day rolling average is nowhere near as sharp. We know the first wave was massive but this one, even with full counting methods and tracing, is nowhere near. Therefore we are slowing the spread in some way. But the question remains will it return to the levels they would have been if testing has occurred then as it is now?

    If you had asked me about the first weeks where it started to rise I would be very pessimistic about a second wave. Watching it sharply rise now suggests unless we stop it we can expect a second wave. But we know a lot more now so that doesn't have to translate into a national lockdown. Only a fool would lock down low infection areas just because we have high infection areas hundreds of miles away.

    The death rates are climbing but they remain a slow increase. This is very good news (other than the poor people who have died, of course). The hospital admissions are climbing at a higher rate but still remain low compared to the sharp incline on the infection chart. If these two remain low, good news, but if the time comes they start spiking then we are in big trouble again.

    A concern is the reported increase across all age groups. Whilst 20-29 remains the worst (doesn't this tie in with the socialising root causes?) they have reported the 85+ are rising. This will mean 60-69 and 70+will be rising. This is an obvious concern.

    Lets hope they, and the public, are taking all steps to stop this getting into hospitals and care homes.
    Some very wise words there Terry.

    Perhaps at face value it might seem like we're almost back to where we were in the spring, daily cases wise, but like you said, there have been many developments since then, such as more routine testing, which was then limited to the absolute worst cases, and the daily recorded cases during the last 'peak' between late March and early May were probably just the 'tip of the iceberg', whilst the daily recorded cases right now, whilst still far from perfect, might be more representative than those back in the spring, which many now believe were greatly undercounted.There is also increased speculation that Covid might already have been within our shores as early as last December, and whatever cases and deaths back then were probably thought to have been attributed to the normal flu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulisa View Post
    My daughter had a bad panic attack the first time she wore a mask but persevered and now can cope very nicely..I splashed out on some "designer" masks which are softer so these were more acceptable and looked prettier! She wants to do her bit too.

    I hope you are ok where you live, Nora?..It must be much harder for you in the north west.
    We've been restricted for a few weeks now, and no sign in it changing according to the text I got this morning...
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    Re: Covid-19 discussion thread

    I've decided to have a break from the news over the next few days, though I will be continuing with the very same precautions until further notice.

    If the worst comes to the worst, and we end up having no choice but to have a second nationwide lockdown, my view is that it might be easier for me this time round having already experienced it earlier in the year, so therefore, I know what (and not) to do and to expect.

    My dad reckons that if it does end up happening (as an absolute last resort) it will probably be for just a fortnight max.

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    It will be known territory, Lencoboy and not on the same scale as what happened in March.

    I think it's a good idea to take a break from the news because saturation will only increase anxiety and you won't gain reassurance from random facts and figures. Your dad sounds very supportive-far better to get that reassurance from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulisa View Post
    It will be known territory, Lencoboy and not on the same scale as what happened in March.

    I think it's a good idea to take a break from the news because saturation will only increase anxiety and you won't gain reassurance from random facts and figures. Your dad sounds very supportive-far better to get that reassurance from him.
    Thanks for your kind words, Pulisa.

    Nice that the vast majority on here are generally level-headed in spite of their own anxieties, unlike many other forums, which seem to be full of constant bile and venom, and not just over Covid, but other heavily politicised things like Brexit, austerity, the economy, crime, terrorism, kids today, etc. Know-it-alls galore.

    Though on here, it's generally more laid back, thank god.

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    Re: Covid-19 discussion thread

    Always a bad thing to engage with keyboard warriors unless you enjoy that sort of thing. They probably don't get much attention in the real world.

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    Morons across the political spectrum unite!

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    Re: Covid-19 discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Lencoboy View Post
    Thanks for your kind words, Pulisa.

    Nice that the vast majority on here are generally level-headed in spite of their own anxieties, unlike many other forums, which seem to be full of constant bile and venom, and not just over Covid, but other heavily politicised things like Brexit, austerity, the economy, crime, terrorism, kids today, etc. Know-it-alls galore.

    Though on here, it's generally more laid back, thank god.
    You're one of the level headed ones Lencoboy. Look after yourself mate and keep safe.
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    Re: Covid-19 discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Lencoboy View Post
    I've decided to have a break from the news over the next few days, though I will be continuing with the very same precautions until further notice.
    A wise move: I'm doing the same. So no more BBC News channel, no more BBC website, no Radio 4.

    On a positive note; I've just managed to get through two days back at work after six months - and there may be more to come.

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