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    Re: Covid-19 discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Lencoboy View Post
    That really sucks, Nora!!

    Sounds like your teacher was a stupid power-crazy barsteward with a bit of a screw loose herself.

    Activities like sewing, and art and craft in general, should be pleasurable and therapeutic, and that brainless cretin who was supposed to have educated you must have put you off such activities for life, and I guess you probably have since been triggered whenever you have seen sewing-related equipment.

    I honestly believe many of us on the spectrum had (and still have) more of a brain that many of those useless, not fit for purpose teachers themselves, but unfortunately we were, more often
    than not, the powerless 'seen and not heard' elephants in the room.

    In fact, I wouldn't even regard them as 'real' teachers. 'Real' teachers for me are genuinely pleasant, caring and understanding people, not imbeciles like that loser you had the misfortune to be (non) educated by!

    Sorry for yet another epic (and off-topic) rant.

    Well just remember the old adage about teachers .... those that can do, do and those that can't do, teach;..... never a truer word said when looking at today's generation of teachers. All very well that they try to be informal and 'friends' with their pupils, but ultimately the kids don't respect them. Teachers in my youth kept an authoritative distance, weren't afraid to dish out discipline, and they got results.
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    There are good and bad workers in every profession: doctors, lawyers, mechanics, fast-food workers, crossing guards, etc. As a teacher today, I find your comments very insulting, Dorabella. I'm sure there are some teachers today who do try to make friends inappropriately with their pupils, but we're not all like that. It's not right to group us all together. I take my job seriously, and I find that I get the best results with firm, but caring teaching. My students know they can't get away anything, but they know I care about them. They know I am strict and firm because I want them to get the best education they can and have the most options available to them later in life. They do what I ask in class not out of fear, but because I have built a relationship with them and they know I want them to succeed.

    Frankly, in my opinion there are too many teacher-bashers out there from people who probably couldn't last a day in our profession. However, everyone has an opinion on teachers because everyone has been to school. The only profession I see getting more bashing than ours are politicians and lawyers.
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    Well the UK's overall R-rate has dropped slightly over the past week, according to the scrolling text on the BBC News channel last night when my dad was watching it, and yesterday's daily infections had also dropped slightly to just 20k odd, especially considering they were 26k on Wednesday!

    I know in both cases (especially the former) it's only negligible in the grand scheme of things, but any downward trend in the numbers is more than welcome, however small or large.

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    Re: Covid-19 discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by AntsyVee View Post
    There are good and bad workers in every profession: doctors, lawyers, mechanics, fast-food workers, crossing guards, etc. As a teacher today, I find your comments very insulting, Dorabella. I'm sure there are some teachers today who do try to make friends inappropriately with their pupils, but we're not all like that. It's not right to group us all together. I take my job seriously, and I find that I get the best results with firm, but caring teaching. My students know they can't get away anything, but they know I care about them. They know I am strict and firm because I want them to get the best education they can and have the most options available to them later in life. They do what I ask in class not out of fear, but because I have built a relationship with them and they know I want them to succeed.

    Frankly, in my opinion there are too many teacher-bashers out there from people who probably couldn't last a day in our profession. However, everyone has an opinion on teachers because everyone has been to school. The only profession I see getting more bashing than ours are politicians and lawyers.
    I very much agree with you AV.

    Teachers on both sides of the Atlantic do get it in the neck far too often and the good ones more often than not fail to get the credit and recognition they deserve, whilst the not-so-good ones sadly seem to bring the profession into disrepute.

    Same for a lot of the 'young people today'-bashing that goes on, in the real world there are probably far more good young people than bad, but sadly the bad ones, more often than not, seem to be given the bulk of media attention in general, and the cycle of stereotyping sadly continues.

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    Re: Covid-19 discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dorabella View Post
    Well just remember the old adage about teachers .... those that can do, do and those that can't do, teach;..... never a truer word said when looking at today's generation of teachers. All very well that they try to be informal and 'friends' with their pupils, but ultimately the kids don't respect them. Teachers in my youth kept an authoritative distance, weren't afraid to dish out discipline, and they got results.
    What about those teachers who used to have affairs with pupils (and vice versa) and secretly getting up to all kinds of dubious things behind closed doors, and cadging booze and fags off each other?

    That most certainly amounted to being 'friends' and acting informally, and inappropriately, IMO.

    No hard feelings though, Dorabella, as I'm sure you're a good person at heart, and you seem rather level-headed in most other areas.

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    Re: Covid-19 discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dorabella View Post
    Well just remember the old adage about teachers .... those that can do, do and those that can't do, teach;..... never a truer word said when looking at today's generation of teachers. All very well that they try to be informal and 'friends' with their pupils, but ultimately the kids don't respect them. Teachers in my youth kept an authoritative distance, weren't afraid to dish out discipline, and they got results.
    Yes, they created a lot of bitter individuals who couldn't progress past rote-learning. I think my nephew (deputy head of history at a top-flight school here) would be greatly insulted by your stupid remarks.

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    Re: Covid-19 discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Lencoboy View Post
    What about those teachers who used to have affairs with pupils (and vice versa) and secretly getting up to all kinds of dubious things behind closed doors, and cadging booze and fags off each other?

    That most certainly amounted to being 'friends' and acting informally, and inappropriately, IMO.

    No hard feelings though, Dorabella, as I'm sure you're a good person at heart, and you seem rather level-headed in most other areas.
    Oh dear I do seem to have ruffled a few feathers.....

    I am a level headed and rational person, which is precisely why I couldn't stomach what I experienced in my brief time as a teacher. Lets just say that by the time I had traipsed through the ideology, theory, social engineering and general PC nonsense that has invaded the profession and the syllabii over the last 20 years, I found that there was little space left for actual teaching. Of course there are good teachers and bad teachers and not wishing to generalise one way or the other, most knuckle down under the current system that the state has imposed on the profession ... but I was not one of them. Just my opinion and based on personal experience and not 'stupidity'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dorabella View Post
    Oh dear I do seem to have ruffled a few feathers.....

    I am a level headed and rational person, which is precisely why I couldn't stomach what I experienced in my brief time as a teacher. Lets just say that by the time I had traipsed through the ideology, theory, social engineering and general PC nonsense that has invaded the profession and the syllabii over the last 20 years, I found that there was little space left for actual teaching. Of course there are good teachers and bad teachers and not wishing to generalise one way or the other, most knuckle down under the current system that the state has imposed on the profession ... but I was not one of them. Just my opinion and based on personal experience and not 'stupidity'.
    I think what you're saying applies to many other professions too, especially health and social care.

    It does seem to revolve around ideology, social engineering, PC-gawn-mad and a general appeasement culture that we should learn to be more tolerant of the weaker, often clueless staff members who keep making the same old mistakes time and time again, especially when in pursuit of their own personal agendas.

    About 20 years ago there was another client at my old day centre with extreme hard-right political views who was very racist, anti-police, and even proclaimed to side with the IRA. He used to make vulgar remarks about Blair and also used to shout out obscenities like 'eff off' , the C-word that rhymes with 'hunt' and 'woofters' for example outside Boots in our main indoor shopping centre whenever we were in town as a group and the staff never even reprimanded him, saying about free expression and all that, but at the same time had the nerve to revel in zero tolerance policies in response to the moral panic concerning abuse of NHS workers sweeping the country at the time, and would sometimes physically restrain other clients for seemingly trivial infractions like refusing to join their intended group activities.

    Seemed like double standards once again where anything goes for some, and unjust hard-line treatment for others!

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    Re: Covid-19 discussion thread

    I was thinking about paying a visit to a local attraction today as I'd sort of had a loose invite to go there, but after an encounter with some yokel at the cemetery yesterday I have come to the conclusion that people are stupid and irresponsible (especially older ones), have no idea of social distancing and do not take this virus seriously. So I am staying indoors; later I might see if I have a spare broom handle around and I will mark it up so that the end of it is two metres from my extended arm and use it to keep people at a distance. Stuff social niceties, this is a real life or death matter for me now.

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    Re: Covid-19 discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Pamplemousse View Post
    I was thinking about paying a visit to a local attraction today as I'd sort of had a loose invite to go there, but after an encounter with some yokel at the cemetery yesterday I have come to the conclusion that people are stupid and irresponsible (especially older ones), have no idea of social distancing and do not take this virus seriously. So I am staying indoors; later I might see if I have a spare broom handle around and I will mark it up so that the end of it is two metres from my extended arm and use it to keep people at a distance. Stuff social niceties, this is a real life or death matter for me now.
    I know what you're saying PM, there are people of all age groups with 'don't give a damn' attitudes.

    But sadly it's almost always youngsters, ethnic minorities and people with disabilities that seem to get it in the neck the most.

    Twas ever thus I suppose.

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