Covid-19 discussion thread

[Lencoboy]

Schools shouldn't be closed. End of.

If fully grown adults can't behave, why should the kids be penalised?
My child goes to school and understands social distancing in and out of school and I can guarantee he or we haven't given any virus to anyone.

The whole government should be outed, they've balls this up from the start!

Although I agree with your last paragraph Matt, whatever PM and/or party in power would have got it in the neck over all this, especially given the blame culture we seem to live in. I recall Gordon Brown and New Labour being (unfairly IMO) blamed for the Global Financial Crisis back in 2008-10 when it was in fact a global phenomenon which, despite New Labour's best intentions at the time, was mostly beyond their control. I don't think the media at the time really helped either.

I honestly don't believe the Tories would have handled the GFC any better had they been in power back then.

Ditto the Lib Dems.

[Pamplemousse]

Schools shouldn't be closed. End of.

So where are the biggest outbreaks at the moment, especially in London?

Schools. Sorry Matt, but you are wrong in this instance. Whole year groups are getting sent home at the moment as infections tear through schools.

[MyNameIsTerry]

Although I agree with your last paragraph Matt, whatever PM and/or party in power would have got it in the neck over all this, especially given the blame culture we seem to live in. I recall Gordon Brown and New Labour being (unfairly IMO) blamed for the Global Financial Crisis back in 2008-10 when it was in fact a global phenomenon which, despite New Labour's best intentions at the time, was mostly beyond their control. I don't think the media at the time really helped either.

I honestly don't believe the Tories would have handled the GFC any better had they been in power back then.

Ditto the Lib Dems.

Agreed. Corbyn isn't known for swift action either.

Just imagine if social media and the online news had been around through previous national emergencies? It would wall-to-wall complaining (well, that would perhaps be if the public had turned into what they are now).

[Lencoboy]

So where are the biggest outbreaks at the moment, especially in London?

Schools. Sorry Matt, but you are wrong in this instance. Whole year groups are getting sent home at the moment as infections tear through schools.

Perhaps any Covid-related school closures should be pursued on a case-by-case basis, such as in the worst affected areas like London, Wales etc, rather than on a full-on nationwide scale.

Also there might be certain schools who haven't been taking the issue seriously enough. Same goes for certain pubs.

My day centre, however, has remained open through the second lockdown and so far (touch wood) without any Covid-related issues AFAIK.

[BikerMatt]

So where are the biggest outbreaks at the moment, especially in London?

Schools. Sorry Matt, but you are wrong in this instance. Whole year groups are getting sent home at the moment as infections tear through schools.

At my boys school and probably all the others they go in and leave at staggered times and stay in bubbles whilst there.
Parents have to follow a procedures, wear face masks and social distance and this is were my problem lies.... Parents have been told time and again about face masks, distancing and the procedures set in place, but so many just don't, so that's why I get so frustrated as it's the so called grown ups that are so much to blame.
Yes there is a spoke in schools but not in every area so closing schools can't be nationwide.
This isn't the kids fault, it's the adults and schools closed will have a massive impact for them and the country for decades.
It can't just be "close schools. End of"

[pulisa]

The secondary schools appear to be the problem where I live. We are anticipating tier 3 on Weds. Primary schools are doing a fine job but it's more difficult with teenagers

[BikerMatt]

https://youtu.be/CYmn76Y50Us

The second wave........ NSFW

[glassgirlw]

The secondary schools appear to be the problem where I live. We are anticipating tier 3 on Weds. Primary schools are doing a fine job but it's more difficult with teenagers

Same in my area Pulisa. They shut down the middle and high schools again and went full remote. Only the elementary age kids are in person schooling right now.

[pulisa]

Same in my area Pulisa. They shut down the middle and high schools again and went full remote. Only the elementary age kids are in person schooling right now.

I don't really understand why the secondary schools can't just finish for the holidays now. What difference does a week make in terms of education? i should imagine most schools are on a countdown to Christmas with "fun" lessons anyway. I don't buy the "it will affect their mental health" argument.

I reckon anyone who actually has a long term and serious mental health issue won't stand a chance of getting help on the NHS post Covid. I'm really worried for my children.

[Pamplemousse]

The secondary schools appear to be the problem where I live. We are anticipating tier 3 on Weds. Primary schools are doing a fine job but it's more difficult with teenagers

And this is the point I'm trying to make to Matt - it is the secondary schools that are the major problem. Can't be the pubs round here, they're all shut!! I expect we'll remain in Tier 3, and I can see places like Essex going into Tier 3 as well.