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    Sorry mate I didn't realise it was sub only.
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    Australian working in busy London mortuary opens up on devastating second wave

    The deadly second wave is causing UK morgues to run out of space, prompting a warning from a Queenslander stuck in the middle of it.
    Ellen Ransley
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    January 19, 2021 - 7:35AM
    NCA NewsWire
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    Fears ICU's could be overwhelmed as UK records 1,500 deaths





    Prime Minister Boris Johnson has warned MPs intensive care units could soon be overwhelmed despite saying lockdown measures are beginning to…









    As the United Kingdom battles a fatal second wave of COVID-19, an Australian working in London’s largest mortuary has warned those back home just how deadly complacency can be.

    Rose Carbon, a former Brisbane resident who now works as a mortuary assistant at a major southwest London hospital quickly running out of space as the death toll rises, said her team was “exhausted”.
    The United Kingdom recorded its deadliest day since the start of the pandemic on Wednesday with 1564 deaths, while an average of 53,000 new cases are confirmed daily.
    The total death toll now exceeds 88,590 and is the highest fatality rate in Europe. More than 20,000 people have died from COVID-19 in the past 30 days alone.
    In comparison, 909 Australians have died since the beginning of the pandemic, and less than 30,000 cases have been recorded.

    Rose Carbon is a mortuary assistant at a major south west London hospital and says her team is quickly running out of space as the COVID-19 death toll rises in the UK. Picture: Supplied
    At the hospital where Ms Carbon works, temporary mortuaries have been set up to cope with the rising fatalities, but they too are quickly approaching capacity.
    “People here are working harder than they ever have before,” Ms Carbon told NCA NewsWire.
    “In the first wave, we said we couldn’t do this again; it’s so awful to be a part of.
    “But this is 100 times worse than it was (during the first wave).”


    Temporary mortuaries have been set up across the UK as the country grapples with a deadly second wave. Picture: Justin Setterfield/Getty Images
    Ms Carbon said it was extremely frustrating to watch so many UK residents become complacent, resulting in the spike in case numbers and ultimately more bodies in her mortuary.
    “People don’t take it seriously (anymore),” she said.
    “They don’t understand. This virus is so unpredictable. You can have it and be spreading it and not even realise.
    “Complacency is very deadly.”
    As the situation worsens in the UK, Ms Carbon said Australians should take it as a warning.
    “If you look at the stats of when Melbourne went into lockdown … of course that was incredibly tough, but it worked,” she said.
    “If you remove physical contact, you’re more likely to eradicate it quicker.
    “You see examples like New Zealand. They’ve pretty much eradicated it by adhering to government advice … they listened to medical experts.
    “If every single person in the UK adhered to government guidelines, we would get rid of this so much quicker.”

    Hospitals in the United Kingdom are being overwhelmed by the rising number of new COVID-19 infections, which average more than 53,000 per day. Picture: Daniel Leal-Olivas/ AFP)
    Ms Carbon said mortuaries around the country, and the National Health Service as a whole, were being “run into the ground” as facilities approach maximum capacity.
    “It’s exhausting … We’re coming in on weekends, we’re staying back late just to keep on top of everything,” she said.
    While an average day before the pandemic meant Ms Carbon was assisting with post-mortems, working with the coroner and other hospital staff, and contacting bereavement services, COVID-19 has added an unprecedented level of work.
    “There are so many more deaths, and so much more infection control on top of that,” she said.
    “We’re under an immense amount of pressure. We had a heavy day before the pandemic, but this second wave is so much worse than the first, and not enough people realise that.”

    Ms Carbon said the dramatic death toll was not only impacting space at her mortuary, but also impeding on the grieving process for those who have lost a loved one to the virus. Picture: Supplied
    Ms Carbon said the dramatic spike in the number of COVID deaths at her hospital not only meant the mortuary was running out of space, but it was impeding on grieving.
    “What we would usually do is offer a service where people can come and view their loved ones … It’s a crucial part in the grieving process,” she said.
    “We’re not able to facilitate that anymore. That’s so upsetting, to the families and to us. We’re in this line of work for a reason, we have compassion.
    “These people (who passed away) are someone’s loved ones. They’re not just figures in the newspaper, that’s someone’s life that has become extinct.”
    Ms Carbon said the fatality rate from the second wave is so intense, funeral homes were becoming backed up, delaying the grieving process by at least three weeks as the entire industry struggled to keep up with the sheer magnitude.
    “People cannot grieve properly, and cemeteries and crematoriums can’t keep up with the demand,” Ms Carbon said.
    “That’s very intense. You get delayed grief.”
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    [QUOTE=wobblehead;1985463]Biebs wears a mask and it did not harm him and he has anxiety
    I think Phil02 you should wear a mask. If you dont you will have problems with othet people and that will make your anxiety worser.

    I guess most people in this forum are over. ,30. Thats why you cannot lke Biebs music. I think that your parents did not like the music you liked in the ,,80s. Duran Duran, Human League etc

    When I watched a documentary about Beatles their fans were all girls the age of my younger sister. Now persons of all ages like the Beatles.

    The Canadian government want Biebs back because he paid a lot of taxes. Also his local automobile dealer because he bought cars for all his friends on their birthday's.

    You cant blame him.for escaping to USA. Even Harry and Meghan did not last long with us. Our winters really suck.[/QUOT

    I think you meant Phil 06
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    [QUOTE=Phill2;1985482]
    Quote Originally Posted by wobblehead View Post
    Biebs wears a mask and it did not harm him and he has anxiety
    I think Phil02 you should wear a mask. If you dont you will have problems with othet people and that will make your anxiety worser.

    I guess most people in this forum are over. ,30. Thats why you cannot lke Biebs music. I think that your parents did not like the music you liked in the ,,80s. Duran Duran, Human League etc

    When I watched a documentary about Beatles their fans were all girls the age of my younger sister. Now persons of all ages like the Beatles.

    The Canadian government want Biebs back because he paid a lot of taxes. Also his local automobile dealer because he bought cars for all his friends on their birthday's.

    You cant blame him.for escaping to USA. Even Harry and Meghan did not last long with us. Our winters really suck.[/QUOT

    I think you meant Phil 06
    Yes, we know you're really a secret Belieber, Phill...
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    Re: Covid-19 discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Phill2 View Post
    Sorry mate I didn't realise it was sub only.
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    Australian working in busy London mortuary opens up on devastating second wave

    The deadly second wave is causing UK morgues to run out of space, prompting a warning from a Queenslander stuck in the middle of it.
    Ellen Ransley
    3 min read
    January 19, 2021 - 7:35AM
    NCA NewsWire
    7 comments





    COURIERMAIL.COM.AU1:43
    Fears ICU's could be overwhelmed as UK records 1,500 deaths





    Prime Minister Boris Johnson has warned MPs intensive care units could soon be overwhelmed despite saying lockdown measures are beginning to…









    As the United Kingdom battles a fatal second wave of COVID-19, an Australian working in London’s largest mortuary has warned those back home just how deadly complacency can be.

    Rose Carbon, a former Brisbane resident who now works as a mortuary assistant at a major southwest London hospital quickly running out of space as the death toll rises, said her team was “exhausted”.
    The United Kingdom recorded its deadliest day since the start of the pandemic on Wednesday with 1564 deaths, while an average of 53,000 new cases are confirmed daily.
    The total death toll now exceeds 88,590 and is the highest fatality rate in Europe. More than 20,000 people have died from COVID-19 in the past 30 days alone.
    In comparison, 909 Australians have died since the beginning of the pandemic, and less than 30,000 cases have been recorded.

    Rose Carbon is a mortuary assistant at a major south west London hospital and says her team is quickly running out of space as the COVID-19 death toll rises in the UK. Picture: Supplied
    At the hospital where Ms Carbon works, temporary mortuaries have been set up to cope with the rising fatalities, but they too are quickly approaching capacity.
    “People here are working harder than they ever have before,” Ms Carbon told NCA NewsWire.
    “In the first wave, we said we couldn’t do this again; it’s so awful to be a part of.
    “But this is 100 times worse than it was (during the first wave).”


    Temporary mortuaries have been set up across the UK as the country grapples with a deadly second wave. Picture: Justin Setterfield/Getty Images
    Ms Carbon said it was extremely frustrating to watch so many UK residents become complacent, resulting in the spike in case numbers and ultimately more bodies in her mortuary.
    “People don’t take it seriously (anymore),” she said.
    “They don’t understand. This virus is so unpredictable. You can have it and be spreading it and not even realise.
    “Complacency is very deadly.”
    As the situation worsens in the UK, Ms Carbon said Australians should take it as a warning.
    “If you look at the stats of when Melbourne went into lockdown … of course that was incredibly tough, but it worked,” she said.
    “If you remove physical contact, you’re more likely to eradicate it quicker.
    “You see examples like New Zealand. They’ve pretty much eradicated it by adhering to government advice … they listened to medical experts.
    “If every single person in the UK adhered to government guidelines, we would get rid of this so much quicker.”

    Hospitals in the United Kingdom are being overwhelmed by the rising number of new COVID-19 infections, which average more than 53,000 per day. Picture: Daniel Leal-Olivas/ AFP)
    Ms Carbon said mortuaries around the country, and the National Health Service as a whole, were being “run into the ground” as facilities approach maximum capacity.
    “It’s exhausting … We’re coming in on weekends, we’re staying back late just to keep on top of everything,” she said.
    While an average day before the pandemic meant Ms Carbon was assisting with post-mortems, working with the coroner and other hospital staff, and contacting bereavement services, COVID-19 has added an unprecedented level of work.
    “There are so many more deaths, and so much more infection control on top of that,” she said.
    “We’re under an immense amount of pressure. We had a heavy day before the pandemic, but this second wave is so much worse than the first, and not enough people realise that.”

    Ms Carbon said the dramatic death toll was not only impacting space at her mortuary, but also impeding on the grieving process for those who have lost a loved one to the virus. Picture: Supplied
    Ms Carbon said the dramatic spike in the number of COVID deaths at her hospital not only meant the mortuary was running out of space, but it was impeding on grieving.
    “What we would usually do is offer a service where people can come and view their loved ones … It’s a crucial part in the grieving process,” she said.
    “We’re not able to facilitate that anymore. That’s so upsetting, to the families and to us. We’re in this line of work for a reason, we have compassion.
    “These people (who passed away) are someone’s loved ones. They’re not just figures in the newspaper, that’s someone’s life that has become extinct.”
    Ms Carbon said the fatality rate from the second wave is so intense, funeral homes were becoming backed up, delaying the grieving process by at least three weeks as the entire industry struggled to keep up with the sheer magnitude.
    “People cannot grieve properly, and cemeteries and crematoriums can’t keep up with the demand,” Ms Carbon said.
    “That’s very intense. You get delayed grief.”
    Thanks, Phill.

    The overrun and temporary mortuary problems have been covered here too especially regarding London.
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    Re: Covid-19 discussion thread

    Hancock is self isolating now then. Can lizard people contract the virus? I'm sure he'll be fine....
    Last edited by BikerMatt; 19-01-21 at 14:18.

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    Re: Covid-19 discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by BikerMatt View Post
    Hancock is self isolating now then. Can lizard people contract the virus? I'm sure he'll be fine....
    Hasn't Hancock already had Covid earlier on in the pandemic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lencoboy View Post
    Hasn't Hancock already had Covid earlier on in the pandemic?
    He did LB yes, so probably has immunity but not wanting to chance it.

    Matt - I think the lizard people are higher up. 'The Cult' as David Icke calls them. They control the governments so Hancock would be a sheep the same as us, albeit a more privileged one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishman65 View Post
    He did LB yes, so probably has immunity but not wanting to chance it.

    Matt - I think the lizard people are higher up. 'The Cult' as David Icke calls them. They control the governments so Hancock would be a sheep the same as us, albeit a more privileged one.
    So he'll be eating dried crickets rather than live?

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    Re: Covid-19 discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Lencoboy View Post
    Hasn't Hancock already had Covid earlier on in the pandemic?
    Yeah I think so Lenco.

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    Re: Covid-19 discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Lencoboy View Post
    Hasn't Hancock already had Covid earlier on in the pandemic?
    He did. This however is a result of him being contacted by Test and Trace.

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