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    I want freedom from HA!

    I just joined this forum. Not so I can come on here and list my "symptoms" and get reassurance that I'm okay. I think that in an of itself is a symptom of HA and it needs to stop. I don't think I can ever overcome HA if I'm repeating behaviors that only keep me "sick" with HA.

    I want to learn how to live with the fact that I can't control what happens to me (or my children because I worry excessively for them too) or that my control is limited and even if I do all the right things with my health, I (and my kids) could still get some kind of disease. I want to learn how to be okay with that and live a happy life in spite of this fact.

    I tend to worry about the rare diseases more than the common ones, even though I am more likely to get one of those. And the more rare, horrible and untreatable the disease, the more I worry. Most times I don't have a symptom but just the idea that I have no way to stop it and although it's rare, it DOES happen to people, is enough to send me over the edge with panic. I will sometimes develop "symptoms" just hearing about a disease that I have started to worry about.

    I have read about FFI and sFI. There are only 40 families world-wide that have it and it's mostly hereditary. Even more rare, are cases of sFI (sporadic and not hereditary). There are only 24 people world-wide diagnosed. On this planet of 7 BILLION I am actually worried about getting this disease! That is how crazy HA is. 24 out of 7 billion is so rare that it's not even worth my time because it's much MORE possible that I will NEVER get this disease. If we're talking about rates, that means 7,699,999,976 out of 7,000,000,000 do not get this disease. Yet the rate of cancer for women is 1 in 2. 50% of women on this planet will develop some kind of cancer in their lifetime. Yet I don't worry about cancer. I think a lot of the anxiety for me is in the lack of treatment options. The more rare a disease, the less treatment options, zero chance of surviving and dying a horrible death, the more worried I get. But with cancer, lots of people beat it and survive. There is hope. I think that's why rare diseases scare me most. They are death sentences with tremendous suffering.

    I can't control these things. I might get some horrible disease and die a horrible death. My children might too which scares me so much. But I literally can't do anything about it. But I also may not get a horrible disease and die a horrible death. I might live to be old and die a peaceful death. Like my grandmother, who died peacefully in her sleep a the ripe age of 89. That could be me too.

    The fear of me dying and leaving my children alone in the world also plays into this too. I have a son with challenges who relies on me for everything. I can't die until he's an adult and able to survive on his own. And I have no way to secure that. This scares the hell out of me. But somehow, I need to accept this and be fine with it so that I can live life to the fullest with my children.

    I am hoping we can find ways to overcome and I would love to hear your success stories. I'd like to know if there are others who are like me and worry about the rarest diseases and how you cope with that.

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    Hello and welcome to the forum.
    i can totally relate to all you are saying and worry constantly about my health and leaving my children.
    I had CBT and took fluoxetine a few years ago and I was fine for a couple of years.
    came off the fluoxetine 3 years ago and have relapsed in the last year. Back on antidepressants and on waiting list for CBT again. This combination worked for me before so I am hoping it will again. Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Penelope View Post
    Hello and welcome to the forum.
    i can totally relate to all you are saying and worry constantly about my health and leaving my children.
    I had CBT and took fluoxetine a few years ago and I was fine for a couple of years.
    came off the fluoxetine 3 years ago and have relapsed in the last year. Back on antidepressants and on waiting list for CBT again. This combination worked for me before so I am hoping it will again. Good luck
    I have heard that CBT can be very helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosmerbeauty View Post

    I have read about FFI and sFI.

    This is what you need to stop doing first, researching.

    It is not possible (not even remotely) to recover from HA if you research disease. It will never, ever stop.

    So that's the first place to start. Take control of the self research. Stop making disaster such a familiar thing to your brain. Your subconscious has trouble separating the difference between reading about something, and it actually happening.

    You sound like you're on the right path already with not wanting to repeat bad habits, but this is the main one to break.

    Whenever you feel the worry of disaster happening, repeat a mantra to yourself 'we are all fit and healthy right now, this is where I choose to be right now'.......or something similar, whatever you choose.

    You can only ever live in this moment, so there's no point in imagining a worse moment that doesn't even exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosmerbeauty View Post
    I just joined this forum. Not so I can come on here and list my "symptoms" and get reassurance that I'm okay. I think that in an of itself is a symptom of HA and it needs to stop. I don't think I can ever overcome HA if I'm repeating behaviors that only keep me "sick" with HA.

    I want to learn how to live with the fact that I can't control what happens to me (or my children because I worry excessively for them too) or that my control is limited and even if I do all the right things with my health, I (and my kids) could still get some kind of disease. I want to learn how to be okay with that and live a happy life in spite of this fact.
    Hi and welcome! I've been on the boards for a while and have seen pretty much everything when it comes to HA and anxiety in general. The vast majority of threads are way beyond irrational and sadly, many are caught up in the rabbit hole, unable to see the light of day. IMO, the above statement already puts you on the path to healing. Its apparent that you recognize that your fear of extremely rare diseases is irrational and are applying reasoning and rationality in dismissing them.

    Check out the Success Stories forum. There's a lot of inspiring accounts. I know of several that have tamed the dragon and moved on from the site. This Stickie is worth reading. Chris was really in a bad way and worked hard to help himself. He left the forum and started a Facebook Group dedicated to recovering from HA. He's doing quite well now.

    With hard work and some inner fortitude, you can learn to keep the dragon in his cave

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    Re: I want freedom from HA!

    Quote Originally Posted by ankietyjoe View Post
    This is what you need to stop doing first, researching.

    It is not possible (not even remotely) to recover from HA if you research disease. It will never, ever stop.

    So that's the first place to start. Take control of the self research. Stop making disaster such a familiar thing to your brain. Your subconscious has trouble separating the difference between reading about something, and it actually happening.

    You sound like you're on the right path already with not wanting to repeat bad habits, but this is the main one to break.

    Whenever you feel the worry of disaster happening, repeat a mantra to yourself 'we are all fit and healthy right now, this is where I choose to be right now'.......or something similar, whatever you choose.

    You can only ever live in this moment, so there's no point in imagining a worse moment that doesn't even exist.
    I know this was directed at someone else but, I really needed to hear this. Thank you.
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    I believe in Fact not Fiction. Dr Google is Pure Fiction but memorable for all the wrong reasons. Highly addictive but of very dubious quality.

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    Re: I want freedom from HA!

    Quote Originally Posted by ankietyjoe View Post
    This is what you need to stop doing first, researching.

    It is not possible (not even remotely) to recover from HA if you research disease. It will never, ever stop.

    So that's the first place to start. Take control of the self research. Stop making disaster such a familiar thing to your brain. Your subconscious has trouble separating the difference between reading about something, and it actually happening.

    You sound like you're on the right path already with not wanting to repeat bad habits, but this is the main one to break.

    Whenever you feel the worry of disaster happening, repeat a mantra to yourself 'we are all fit and healthy right now, this is where I choose to be right now'.......or something similar, whatever you choose.

    You can only ever live in this moment, so there's no point in imagining a worse moment that doesn't even exist.
    That is a very good mantra. You're right. Sometimes I think research will help me see that I have nothing to worry about. Kind of like how we come on here asking people to help us feel better about our symptoms but in the end I almost always feel worse and find out even scarier facts about the disease that make me worry more.

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    Re: I want freedom from HA!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishmanpa View Post
    Hi and welcome! I've been on the boards for a while and have seen pretty much everything when it comes to HA and anxiety in general. The vast majority of threads are way beyond irrational and sadly, many are caught up in the rabbit hole, unable to see the light of day. IMO, the above statement already puts you on the path to healing. Its apparent that you recognize that your fear of extremely rare diseases is irrational and are applying reasoning and rationality in dismissing them.

    Check out the Success Stories forum. There's a lot of inspiring accounts. I know of several that have tamed the dragon and moved on from the site. This Stickie is worth reading. Chris was really in a bad way and worked hard to help himself. He left the forum and started a Facebook Group dedicated to recovering from HA. He's doing quite well now.

    With hard work and some inner fortitude, you can learn to keep the dragon in his cave

    Positive thoughts
    Thank you!! I will check out those links. Yes, I definitely recognize that I'm being irrational and I have to somehow, come to terms and be at peace with the fact that a horrible disease could happen to me or the kids or maybe not, and how to live happily until I cross that bridge, if I ever have to.

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    Re: I want freedom from HA!

    Quote Originally Posted by bosmerbeauty View Post
    Sometimes I think research will help me see that I have nothing to worry about.

    It will never work that way. Not ever.


    Health anxiety is the most habitual of all forms of anxiety. It is the most self inflicted form of anxiety, and the main source of the anxiety is ironically googling something for 'safety'.

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