The vaccine

[MyNameIsTerry]

There are quite a few letters in coronavirus so time to stop yourself typing it if you can't resist, James. It makes sense. You know how suggestible you are to misleading headlines.

He cheats. He types in Covid

[MyNameIsTerry]

https://www.contagionlive.com/view/v...vid-19-vaccine

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.e...cal-trial/amp/

Thoughts on this vaccine?

Phil, you don't need to answer this but I recall you are now 30 so your parents are going to be 50-60. I was wondering what they think and whether you would do it for them or try to shield them in some way?

For me I'm not fussed about Covid. That might frustrate a few on here but what I actually mean is the impact on me. I do everything to protect my loved ones and not spread to others for similar reasons. I'm possibly even in an at risk group but my first concern is always loved ones as I'm not bothered by my own death. It bothers me more that my death could upset my loved ones. My anxiety has never been about death, a painful one would be another matter though so if the GrimReaper is reading this thread peaceful in my sleep is just fine and not a testicle popping threshing machine please.

So I'm wondering how you are planning to do the things you want next year but also whether you can become motivated by the need to protect your family.

[Lencoboy]

I've been there Wired and its a nightmare, Pulisa's had to talk me down a few times in the past bless her, and she still remained patient!! My anxiety has shifted focus over the last 2 or 3 years to HA, though strangely this year, when I'm faced with a genuine health concern, I've been much better.

But 2018 it was a heart obsession that found me at the cardio unit on a treadmill. My heart was fine, big surprise. Then last year I had a lesion on the back of my hand, I entered those words into google and skin cancer came up, no other results. So off I went to see the GP, I was bracing myself for the inevitable referral to a specialist. The GP took one look and said 'wart'.

With the internet we can diagnose ourselves at the drop of a hat. Pre-internet I would have gone to the library, searched for a book on dermatology, and still probably not find any reference to skin cancer that I could apply to myself. But google throws it in our face, we just have to try and resist the urge.

Very interesting commentary about the Internet and being able to diagnose ourselves at the drop of a hat vs pre-Internet era having to rely on books from local libraries, written by genuine, reputable experts, as opposed to dubious unofficial websites littered with (mis)information written by know-it-all amateurs, often with an agenda of their own.

Swings and roundabouts I suppose.

[pulisa]

Phil, you don't need to answer this but I recall you are now 30 so your parents are going to be 50-60. I was wondering what they think and whether you would do it for them or try to shield them in some way?

For me I'm not fussed about Covid. That might frustrate a few on here but what I actually mean is the impact on me. I do everything to protect my loved ones and not spread to others for similar reasons. I'm possibly even in an at risk group but my first concern is always loved ones as I'm not bothered by my own death. It bothers me more that my death could upset my loved ones. My anxiety has never been about death, a painful one would be another matter though so if the GrimReaper is reading this thread peaceful in my sleep is just fine and not a testicle popping threshing machine please.

So I'm wondering how you are planning to do the things you want next year but also whether you can become motivated by the need to protect your family.

Do you see a need to protect your family though, Phil?

[WiredIncorrectly]

Very true Lencoboy. I got given a very thick medical book from the 70's. Used to belong to my nan before she passed. I read that from the age of around 9 or 10. It probably did me no favors but I remember it being thoroughly in depth with hand drawn cross sections. I wish I had it just because it was a cool book.

[Lencoboy]

Very true Lencoboy. I got given a very thick medical book from the 70's. Used to belong to my nan before she passed. I read that from the age of around 9 or 10. It probably did me no favors but I remember it being thoroughly in depth with hand drawn cross sections. I wish I had it just because it was a cool book.

Nothing wrong with that. I like reading a lot of (now out-of-date) books from the 70s-80s era myself, especially about AV equipment.

I have an old Readers Digest 'Repair Manual' book dating from 1972 in my collection, which I thoroughly treasure.

[Pamplemousse]

Nothing wrong with that. I like reading a lot of (now out-of-date) books from the 70s-80s era myself, especially about AV equipment.

I have an old Readers Digest 'Repair Manual' book dating from 1972 in my collection, which I thoroughly treasure.

I can beat that - I have a book called something like The Home Handyman which dates from about 1947-48 and is full of practical tips and things to make from whatever you had lying about - don't forget, there were *huge* shortages after the war. Very much a post-war continuation of "Make Do and Mend", it has things like nailing carpet around your hoppers on your gutters to stop them freezing, or making things from salvaged wood.

Lencoboy, that book you have was published as recently as 2006.

[fishman65]

Do you see a need to protect your family though, Phil?

I doubt that Pulisa, he's got holidays to book.

[MyNameIsTerry]

Very interesting commentary about the Internet and being able to diagnose ourselves at the drop of a hat vs pre-Internet era having to rely on books from local libraries, written by genuine, reputable experts, as opposed to dubious unofficial websites littered with (mis)information written by know-it-all amateurs, often with an agenda of their own.

Swings and roundabouts I suppose.

It's still HA trap though. Reputable or not it's unhealthy to use either source obsessively and out of fear. People just diagnosed themselves with cancer from a book. The original Dr Google was the illness dictionary.

But true, it is worse with the garbage anyone can put on a website in minutes. Laws protect people from irresponsible publishing in the real world.

[pulisa]

I doubt that Pulisa, he's got holidays to book.

Indeed he has and he will be supporting and protecting the travel and leisure industry at the same time of course.....