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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary A View Post
    I don’t know that there’s anyone I can compare them to in US politics, all I can say is that they’re an insufferable bunch of absolute whiners who are hellbent on breaking up the United Kingdom at any cost.

    We had a referendum in 2014 and the Scottish people, myself included, voted 55% in favour of remaining in the UK. Since then, they have become professional agitators blaming all and sundry on the UK government but taking credit for any positives.

    They cannot let it go, and to make matters worse we now have a bunch of wide eyed hysterical know nothings who love nothing more than roaming the streets of Scotland screeching for another go at their beloved separatism.

    It is no exaggeration when I say that I hate them, and I hate them with a passion. I have English relatives who all think that we in Scotland are all like these dribbling morons. It’s embarrassing.
    Very interesting because I didn't know you were a Scot. BTW I'm of 1/4 Scottish descent...100% American of course.

    So the SNP wanted to leave GB even before Brexit? Have they somehow used Brexit to advance their cause?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyNameIsTerry View Post
    N, worth noting not all Jewish big hats agreed on this. There was a very dirty power struggle going on which twisted things as well.

    I think Corbyn had the same problem Trump had with white supremacists. They used certain groups to get them into power so they are sheepish about turning on them. In Corbyn's case this allowed them to become emboldened. They thought they could get away with it just as post Brexit referendum we had the racists coming out conflating a Leave win with their views.

    Corbyn was weak. He's a career backbencher and put up by the backers as a tool to allow the next leader come in. They failed. Their own previous leadership (Ed Milliband) created the farce by relaxing the joining rules.

    Now Labour is fighting the same old battle under Starmer. Let's not forget he was one of his right hand men, and the architect of their failed Brexit policy or lack of it, and did nothing. But he's a lawyer so I would expect him to ride the political wave into more money whether he believes in anything or not. This guy spends his time saying "that was then, now let's move on" to distance himself from the dirt. But voters will remember.

    Labour will never win whilst they spend more time infighting and forgetting their 'huge' membership is a drop in the ocean compared to voters. They will never win whilst they remain metropolitan Labour. There is a massive divide between metropolitan and traditional voters.

    Right now I can only see them getting in if the Tories really stuff it up. Covid is one factor (Let's face it though Corbyn would have been bad too) but Brexit might be the real nail in the coffin. A lot of people are watching and the kind of nonsense the EU are trying is only hardening views. If Boris gives it all away Farage will ride the wave back into politics. The Tories could still survive by sacking Boris, I believe, because voters will still be wondering about how bad Labour are and that Starmer (and his front bench) all want be into the EU. How can we trust them after all they tried to stop it?
    Just a quick clarification Terry. Trump did not use white supremacists to get into office. That so called group, whoever they are, ain't a pimple on an elephants arse here. Like Reagan said just because someone supports me doesn't mean I support them. Communists support Democrats here. But most Dems don't support communism...at least adult Dems.

    Good points in your post though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noivous View Post
    Very interesting because I didn't know you were a Scot. BTW I'm 1/4 of Scottish descent...100% American of course.

    So the SNP wanted to leave GB even before Brexit? Have they somehow used Brexit to advance their cause?
    N, the SNP have used Covid to further their cause. They’ve literally used everything they can to further their cause. I recall in 2016 when Trump won the US election writing a post on Facebook saying that it was only a matter of time before Alex Salmond (SNP cult leader/sex pest) used that as a mandate for another referendum.

    I don’t call myself Scottish, I call myself British. I love my country but I genuinely hate what my flag now represents. The saltire has been hijacked by nationalist mental cases and it’s honestly not a nice place to be when this subject rears its head.

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    Fair enough, Gary. It sounds as if you're in the majority on the subject of remaining.

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    I thought there was a group in Scotland that when Brexit passed suddenly wanted to leave GB and remain in the EU. But the SNP wants total independence from all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noivous View Post
    I thought there was a group in Scotland that when Brexit passed suddenly wanted to leave GB and remain in the EU. But the SNP wants total independence from all.
    There was, that group was the SNP.

    I’m sure Terry will agree with me on this, but if the UK had voted against Brexit the SNP would have demanded to leave. As I said, the SNP’s sole purpose is to disagree with our UK government and force separatism based on that. The aforementioned wide eyed idiots will go along with it.

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    When I talk about all of this it kind of makes me feel guilty for saying US politics is nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary A View Post
    N, the SNP have used Covid to further their cause. They’ve literally used everything they can to further their cause. I recall in 2016 when Trump won the US election writing a post on Facebook saying that it was only a matter of time before Alex Salmond (SNP cult leader/sex pest) used that as a mandate for another referendum.

    I don’t call myself Scottish, I call myself British. I love my country but I genuinely hate what my flag now represents. The saltire has been hijacked by nationalist mental cases and it’s honestly not a nice place to be when this subject rears its head.
    BTW a lot of groups have co-opted covid to advance their own political agenda.

    Even on a personal level millions of people have done it....Gee, I'd really love to go out with you Saturday night Reggie...but you know, covid. Sorry. Or... I'd really like to work for you Saturday, boss...but covid...sorry dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntsyVee View Post
    Wow, Gary. I've never seen this side of you.

    You know when I was in the UK, I heard a lot of jokes about the Welsh. I also went through Bristol and then onto Cardiff. I kinda have the feeling the English think they are better than any of their neighbors
    We have a thing in Scotland, it’s called “wee man syndrome.” It basically means that you’re always fighting against an imaginary bigger enemy, and for those with simple minds it equates to hating English people just because their country is bigger than ours.

    I recall during the independence referendum of 2014, the Nats (or NATzi’s as I call them) were running around threatening folk in broad daylight. I mean threatening physical violence if they didn’t say they were voting for independence. I lost good friends and even fell out with family members due to the hatred drummed up by the SNP. The fact they still try and do it to this day literally makes me sick to my stomach. As I said, they’re not a political party, they’re a cult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary A View Post
    When I talk about all of this it kind of makes me feel guilty for saying US politics is nuts.
    I don't think the world is anymore insane today than at any other time. Yes, the internet and total loss of privacy has made the world very weird. But if you look back at history. The absolute off the rails insanity of let's say the US Civil War...murders, rapes, mutilation, absolute carnage and debauchery. Or WWII where piles upon piles of human bodies were being bulldozed into pits. Or...pick an era. Things change but human nature does not.

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