Page 3 of 6 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 52

Thread: Politics UK

  1. #21
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Posts
    27,320

    Re: Politics UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Noivous View Post
    I thought there was a group in Scotland that when Brexit passed suddenly wanted to leave GB and remain in the EU. But the SNP wants total independence from all.
    Quite a few members of the SNP will have voted to leave the EU too. The ones that didn't...some of them will be the 'anyone but the English' crowd.

    The same argument has been pointed out to ROI: why did you fight so hard for freedom to just sign it away to an unelected commission in Brussels? Simple for the politicians, Brussels is big money for them. Just ask former Labour leader Neil Kinnock who spent years opposing them until they gave him a job with a great pension

    Scotland will be small beer to the EU. Sure, you get a vote but when you're a net recipient (not payer) how do you say no to the man who pays your bills? ROI are currently learning that lesson.
    __________________
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    For free Mindfulness resources, please see this thread I have created to compile many sources together http://www.nomorepanic.co.uk/showthread.php?t=168689

  2. #22
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Posts
    27,320

    Re: Politics UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary A View Post
    There was, that group was the SNP.

    I’m sure Terry will agree with me on this, but if the UK had voted against Brexit the SNP would have demanded to leave. As I said, the SNP’s sole purpose is to disagree with our UK government and force separatism based on that. The aforementioned wide eyed idiots will go along with it.
    Yep, I agree. They are just the anti UK contrarian party. Watch them in Parliament and you can almost see them foaming at the mouth.

    They know they will wreck Scotland but it won't matter as they will move onto the next trough and let the common man take the pain.

    It was funny to see Sturgeon reject Covid plans by Boris to wait a week and just rename it.

    The sad thing is Scotland keeps voting them in. On the outside we have to remind ourselves people vote for a variety of reasons so as not to think Scottish people are like them. But by returning more SNP seats I can't see an argument to withhold a new referendum. And quite a few want us to have a vote too as we are sick of hearing the SNP blaming everything on us when if they travel over the border they will find many regions that have the same problems with Westminster.

    It's probably time to review the value of devolved assemblies.

    And look at the mess the SNP have caused to the country they love? They blame Parliament for devolved competences.

    Now they are whinging about a power grab as some things return from Brussels. But only now?
    __________________
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    For free Mindfulness resources, please see this thread I have created to compile many sources together http://www.nomorepanic.co.uk/showthread.php?t=168689

  3. #23
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Posts
    27,320

    Re: Politics UK

    Quote Originally Posted by AntsyVee View Post
    Wow, Gary. I've never seen this side of you.

    You know when I was in the UK, I heard a lot of jokes about the Welsh. I also went through Bristol and then onto Cardiff. I kinda have the feeling the English think they are better than any of their neighbors
    No, No, No! We do that with our English neighbouring counties too Throw a football into the mix and it gets even more tribal.

    It's always a laugh reading the funny laws around the world. Whilst newer law supersedes many a bylaw I always laugh when we have one that says we can stick an arrow in a Scotsman if he crosses the border

    There was one funny law somewhere in the world that meant a bride's mother had to be present in the bedroom on the wedding night. It's probably a category on Pornhub Talk about pressure for the poor groom
    __________________
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    For free Mindfulness resources, please see this thread I have created to compile many sources together http://www.nomorepanic.co.uk/showthread.php?t=168689

  4. #24
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Posts
    27,320

    Re: Politics UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Noivous View Post
    Just a quick clarification Terry. Trump did not use white supremacists to get into office. That so called group, whoever they are, ain't a pimple on an elephants arse here. Like Reagan said just because someone supports me doesn't mean I support them. Communists support Democrats here. But most Dems don't support communism...at least adult Dems.

    Good points in your post though.
    Thats really what I mean. He cast a wide net for voters and tried to pick up the disenfranchised the Democrats leave. So in Corbyn's case he was in hock to them as they put him there. Not the same as Trump, as you correctly point out, for the same reasons voting Leave the EU didn't make 17m people racists as we often get told we are. But it reminded me of the slow condemnation issues.

    They all do it in some way. It can be as simple as not wanting to alienate people. Just part of being mainstream with voters spread across the spectrum as opposed to a hard-core narrow church.
    __________________
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    For free Mindfulness resources, please see this thread I have created to compile many sources together http://www.nomorepanic.co.uk/showthread.php?t=168689

  5. #25
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    3,187

    Re: Politics UK

    Quote Originally Posted by MyNameIsTerry View Post
    Yep, I agree. They are just the anti UK contrarian party. Watch them in Parliament and you can almost see them foaming at the mouth.

    They know they will wreck Scotland but it won't matter as they will move onto the next trough and let the common man take the pain.

    It was funny to see Sturgeon reject Covid plans by Boris to wait a week and just rename it.

    The sad thing is Scotland keeps voting them in. On the outside we have to remind ourselves people vote for a variety of reasons so as not to think Scottish people are like them. But by returning more SNP seats I can't see an argument to withhold a new referendum. And quite a few want us to have a vote too as we are sick of hearing the SNP blaming everything on us when if they travel over the border they will find many regions that have the same problems with Westminster.

    It's probably time to review the value of devolved assemblies.

    And look at the mess the SNP have caused to the country they love? They blame Parliament for devolved competences.

    Now they are whinging about a power grab as some things return from Brussels. But only now?
    Here’s how it works up here Terry. We (not me) have a traditional hate for the Tories. It harks back to the days of Thatcher. I’m too young to remember that myself, but traditionally up here, at least since the mid 80’s, we have been labour voters.

    Since the late 90’s to mid 2000’s, labour have been an utter car crash. The SNP are now filling that void. So what you have now is traditional labour voters who don’t want to vote labour but would rather die than vote Tory. The SNP have ridden tall in the saddle due to this.

    For me, the 2014 referendum was absolute proof of what’s going on up here. People voting SNP for nothing more than a void left by labour and an absolute bred in refusal to vote Tory. What’s left? Why, the SNP of course. However, most of us are sensible enough to know where our bread is buttered so we refused independence. We don’t mind voting SNP (again, not me, I’d rather sh*t in my hands and clap) but not to the point of independence.

    However, and this really annoys me, support for independence up here is lower than ever. Ask anyone who lives here. Even staunch SNP activists are happy for them to be in Holyrood but only to look after our devolved interests. We are all sick and tired of hearing about independence. The SNP take our votes as a signal that we all want independence. It really isn’t, it’s just that we don’t want labour, we don’t want Tory, we just want you to shut the fu*k up and get on with the day job.

    They don’t see it like that, though. They see every vote of confidence as a red flag that we in Scotland want independence. This is why I personally feel that they should be removed from parliament, as they clearly aren’t interested in anything else other than independence. They’ve absolutely ruined this country and are now turning folk like yourself and other good people from down south against us. This is deliberate.

    I could go on for bloody hours about this but please rest assured, the SNP do not speak for me and they do not speak for the majority of Scotland. They’re voted into Holyrood, at no point did anyone say that this instantly translates into yet another delve into independence, other than the NATzi’s themselves.

  6. #26
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    3,832

    Re: Politics UK

    Quote Originally Posted by MyNameIsTerry View Post
    No, No, No! We do that with our English neighbouring counties too Throw a football into the mix and it gets even more tribal.

    It's always a laugh reading the funny laws around the world. Whilst newer law supersedes many a bylaw I always laugh when we have one that says we can stick an arrow in a Scotsman if he crosses the border

    There was one funny law somewhere in the world that meant a bride's mother had to be present in the bedroom on the wedding night. It's probably a category on Pornhub Talk about pressure for the poor groom
    Maybe it's cause you're all stuck on a little part of an island...no where to escape from each other LOL
    __________________
    I'm still a work in progress.
    Currently working on: World Domination

  7. #27
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    3,832

    Re: Politics UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Noivous View Post
    Get over yourself.

    that's FMPs game not mine... BTW he hasn't spoken to me in a couple of years probably lol!
    Don't make me put "Noivous' Favorite Liberal" as the new title in my signature line
    __________________
    I'm still a work in progress.
    Currently working on: World Domination

  8. #28
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Posts
    27,320

    Re: Politics UK

    Quote Originally Posted by AntsyVee View Post
    Maybe it's cause you're all stuck on a little part of an island...no where to escape from each other LOL
    Everyone who invaded us left all their moaners here. It was perfect for them. An early Escape From New York. Some did escape on a ship once though
    __________________
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    For free Mindfulness resources, please see this thread I have created to compile many sources together http://www.nomorepanic.co.uk/showthread.php?t=168689

  9. #29
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    3,832

    Re: Politics UK

    Hi Gary
    __________________
    I'm still a work in progress.
    Currently working on: World Domination

  10. #30
    Join Date
    Mar 2020
    Posts
    999

Page 3 of 6 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. The Politics of Covid 19
    By Noivous in forum Coronavirus / COVID-19
    Replies: 157
    Last Post: 10-03-21, 23:28
  2. Ban da politics
    By lebonvin in forum Misc
    Replies: 54
    Last Post: 28-09-19, 13:30
  3. A Little Bit of Politics ...........
    By mezzaninedoor in forum Misc
    Replies: 48
    Last Post: 16-04-19, 03:15
  4. Politics Smorgasbord Minutia
    By Noivous in forum Misc
    Replies: 257
    Last Post: 19-03-17, 04:24

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •