Vaccine to fly

[phil06]

Yeah I heard it'll be mid next year before enough people will be vaccinated. I'm going to hold off on the vaccine and let the brave heros try it out first.

We're getting married in Egypt next year Inshallah. So long as it's safe I'll have it, but us anxiety folk we worry over the smallest things.

It's difficult Phil, but remember things will return to normality. There's only so long before this virus is either wiped out, or treated like a flu. Remember, it's an illness that mostly effects the elderly, who would be at risk from flu/pneumonia on a normal day. The daily death toll in the UK is actually very low.

The media is horrible mate. Try to stay away from it that's what I'm doing.

Thats true I mean they told us everybody would be tested the reality is different. They over inflated numbers and created a fear. Ticket master had to denay mandatory vaccines story. Seems to be a growing opinion you won’t be able to live a normal life without a freedom pass. I mean seemingly some countries require vaccination on entry already so this may be the new normal. I do believe masks will be stopped but I do think a vaccine may be required to enter some places. I mean offcourse we want to plan that’s what life is all about planning parties weddings holidays ect. This virus has shown us not to take every day things for granted. I went abroad so often I worried nothing could beat going to America but now a trip to France sounds a dream. I am a little tired stuck in my one area my mental health is better when I travel I find it a release from my anxiety a goal or a distraction it seems to work for me.

[WiredIncorrectly]

You will love Egypt I went there when I went to Africa awhile back,cruised up the Nile camel rode around pyramids oh it was a lovely time.

I can't wait I'm excited. I'm excited to see the pyramids too. What parts of Africa have you seen? I'd like to give Kenya a visit.

[WiredIncorrectly]

Thats true I mean they told us everybody would be tested the reality is different. They over inflated numbers and created a fear. Ticket master had to denay mandatory vaccines story. Seems to be a growing opinion you won’t be able to live a normal life without a freedom pass. I mean seemingly some countries require vaccination on entry already so this may be the new normal. I do believe masks will be stopped but I do think a vaccine may be required to enter some places. I mean offcourse we want to plan that’s what life is all about planning parties weddings holidays ect. This virus has shown us not to take every day things for granted. I went abroad so often I worried nothing could beat going to America but now a trip to France sounds a dream. I am a little tired stuck in my one area my mental health is better when I travel I find it a release from my anxiety a goal or a distraction it seems to work for me.

That's awesome that you're able to travel the world mate. I noticed somebody mentioned gigs, do you tour?

[phil06]

That's awesome that you're able to travel the world mate. I noticed somebody mentioned gigs, do you tour?

No mostly stay in Scotland for gigs but I usually attend 5 or 6 a year sadly I can’t right now. I do enjoy travelling mostly by train.

[ankietyjoe]

They over inflated numbers and created a fear.

Who is 'they'?

The fear is there because the disease is unpredictable.

I have one friend who had it back in March. He felt rough for a couple of weeks but self isolated etc. Once he felt better, he had residual heart rate issues for another 6 months (spiking up to 200bpm at one point) and last month was rushed into hospital with a Covid related blood clot (widely reported). He is an ex-military paramedic, so knew what to do. If he hadn't of hyperdosed aspirin, it would have probably killed him. Last week he was having an MRI done because he has lost hearing in his left ear, also blood clot related.

The reason that there is fear, is because there is significant risk to long term health, even if it doesn't kill you.

Of the other 3 people I know who have had it, one is fine, two are dead. All under 50.


I really do wish people would stop playing the conspiracy card because this thing doesn't suit them.

[Gary A]

I really do wish people would stop playing the conspiracy card because this thing doesn't suit them.

This, one million times this.

I’m actually tired of it now. All across my personal social media folk who before March this year thought that a coronavirus was something you caught from drinking too much beer are now experts in the field of virology.

I spent almost an entire day yesterday “debating” a woman who works in Asda, apparently she’s decided that mRNA is going to mess up her genetics and turn her into some kind of mutant.

She’s reading things like that from other uneducated idiots who have decided the whole things a conspiracy because, frankly, they can’t be ars*d following the rules. It really is all about them.

[ankietyjoe]

This, one million times this.

I’m actually tired of it now. All across my personal social media folk who before March this year thought that a coronavirus was something you caught from drinking too much beer are now experts in the field of virology.

I spent almost an entire day yesterday “debating” a woman who works in Asda, apparently she’s decided that mRNA is going to mess up her genetics and turn her into some kind of mutant.

She’s reading things like that from other uneducated idiots who have decided the whole things a conspiracy because, frankly, they can’t be ars*d following the rules. It really is all about them.

Exactly.

The pal of mine who had the complications was not only an ex-military paramedic, but also a UN negotiator, has a political Doctorate AND is a two times TED talker. In other words, credible. Yet, despite knowing politics AND medicine AND having had the Virus fvck him hard, he also has friends telling him it's all a hoax. How deluded do you have to be before you brain literally stops functioning because you forgot how to breathe?

Even on the news yesterday, a moronic middle aged professional white male that lived in Richmond saying 'well we really need to lift restrictions now because people are getting sick and tired of this'.

Oh and by the way, I have another friend who IS a clinical research biologist who used to specialise in RNA based research in the USA. According to her, zero risk. RNA works one way. The only way it doesn't is the HIV Virus, which has mutated to work both way. RNA cannot, simply cannot alter your DNA. But what the fvck does she know?!

[Gary A]

What people don’t realise about RNA is that contracting coronavirus, or any virus for that matter, means that you have that viral RNA in your body.

I don’t recall turning into a monkey or developing a new ear after my last bout of flu.

[ankietyjoe]

The scaremongering over the RNA vaccine was in it's delivery method, in other words 'tricking' the body into responding via a side door. Of course there were precautions that had to be taken because it was new technology, but they've been researching this delivery method for decades. It hasn't been rushed into production, the ground work had been done with anti cancer vaccinations for years.

I just wish people really understood what the power of vaccination was really about. It's not even so much the protection the population gets this year, it's the fact that it slows the spread of the virus so much that catastrophic mutations are made hundreds of times less likely. It's a short term and long term solution.

[WiredIncorrectly]

Who is 'they'?

The fear is there because the disease is unpredictable.

I have one friend who had it back in March. He felt rough for a couple of weeks but self isolated etc. Once he felt better, he had residual heart rate issues for another 6 months (spiking up to 200bpm at one point) and last month was rushed into hospital with a Covid related blood clot (widely reported). He is an ex-military paramedic, so knew what to do. If he hadn't of hyperdosed aspirin, it would have probably killed him. Last week he was having an MRI done because he has lost hearing in his left ear, also blood clot related.

The reason that there is fear, is because there is significant risk to long term health, even if it doesn't kill you.

Of the other 3 people I know who have had it, one is fine, two are dead. All under 50.


I really do wish people would stop playing the conspiracy card because this thing doesn't suit them.

Woah, that's pretty intense. I got in touch with an old friend on the phone last week and he had it while we was talking. You could hear he couldn't breath while he was talking and he had to end the call.

He's doing better now but on the phone he still sounds bad. I think I'm convinced I must not have had COVID because I didn't feel like that. My partner did though in February.

Is it common for COVID to cause long term effects?