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    Quote Originally Posted by ankietyjoe View Post
    'tricking' the body into responding via a side door.
    Honestly that sounds like a hack. In hacking you can side load payloads in the same way to bypass many restrictions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiredIncorrectly View Post
    Woah, that's pretty intense. I got in touch with an old friend on the phone last week and he had it while we was talking. You could hear he couldn't breath while he was talking and he had to end the call.

    He's doing better now but on the phone he still sounds bad. I think I'm convinced I must not have had COVID because I didn't feel like that. My partner did though in February.

    Is it common for COVID to cause long term effects?
    It doesn't affect everybody the same way J, that's why I said it's unpredictable. He also has pretty intense breathing issues, in his words he was seeing stars when he walked up the stairs, but the other pal who survived (mid 40's) had it pretty mildly.

    The other two people I 'know' (both old acquaintances of my misses) were female in their mid 30's. No recorded health issues, both dead.

    It's still overwhelmingly likely that you'll experience very mild symptoms, but the percentage of long term complications and death are massively higher than the flu.


    What I've learned from my own health issues over the last 5 years is that the immune system is both a miracle and a curse (in some respects), and is often unpredictable. You only have to look at allergies to see how overwhelmingly dangerously it can respond in some situations where other people are fine. This seems to be the case with Covid, which is new to the human race, and therefore we don't have a de facto way of coping with it. This is why it's so much more dangerous relative to the flu (for example). And again, it's going to fine for 99% of the population, but 1% is a massive number relative to predicted deaths and would completely overwhelm every health service on the planet if precautions weren't taken, the knock on effect being other medical issues being swamped too are resources are spread out too thinly.

    I have a session once a week with a DID specialist that helps me look after the misses. She's around my age and I've literally just heard that she had Covid (test carried out under procedure as she's a health care worker) and didn't even realise. That word again, unpredictable.

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    Sorry to hear about the loss Joe. Mid 30's. That scares me a little that's my age. Your misses had COVID and didn't even know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ankietyjoe View Post
    I really do wish people would stop playing the conspiracy card because this thing doesn't suit them.
    Agreed. Since I stop Googling "Coronavirus" 20 times a day I'm doing much better. I don't even read the media at all any more. It fuels the worry, which fuels your brain to overthink and get trapped in a state. I think it's the anxiety to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiredIncorrectly View Post
    Sorry to hear about the loss Joe. Mid 30's. That scares me a little that's my age. Your misses had COVID and didn't even know?

    That's not what I said

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    Quote Originally Posted by ankietyjoe View Post
    That's not what I said
    Sorry I read that wrong. It was the DID specialist.
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    Yaya. The point here is that Covid isn't predictable. If you look at the ONS data it's approx 100 times more lethal than flu. In a few years it'll probably be more or less comparable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ankietyjoe View Post
    Yaya. The point here is that Covid isn't predictable. If you look at the ONS data it's approx 100 times more lethal than flu. In a few years it'll probably be more or less comparable.
    Do you think there's any chance the virus could mutate and make the vaccine useless? I haven't heard anybody say this, and I'm not even going to Google it. It was literally something that I thought as I was reading your reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ankietyjoe View Post
    Yaya. The point here is that Covid isn't predictable.
    Yeah agreed. This is what makes day to day living frustrating at the moment. It's the unpredictable nature of the virus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiredIncorrectly View Post
    Do you think there's any chance the virus could mutate and make the vaccine useless? I haven't heard anybody say this, and I'm not even going to Google it. It was literally something that I thought as I was reading your reply.
    Of course it's possible, that's what Virus's do. If you've ever looked into Smallpox you'll know how awful it was. Some estimates suggest that it killed 20% of ALL humans that were ever born for nearly 3000 years. It mutated so fast and was so virulent (sic) that humans simply couldn't build up resistance to it fast enough.

    However, corona viruses are a different kettle of fish. We know enough about how they work now and can predict with some degree of accuracy what's going to happen. Not 100% of course, but the science is there. The biggest weapon we have against large mutation is a vaccine, simply because it pushes the R number down so low that it simply can't spread.

    We experience small mutations in the flu virus every year etc, but the immune memory from the last strain is almost always enough to not produce pandemic level problems.

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