Vaccine to fly

[MyNameIsTerry]

You are correct not everything will come true. Don’t we all get anxiety about stuff we read for a while it was Brexit? Many of them are pro vaccine over there but it is a very left wing Labour forum so no surprise. I think Labour voting remain people are the pro vaxers. I myself am a bit of a swing voter I have voted for different parties at each election.

Problem is nobody knows what will happen so lots of speculation.

Phil, the politics board on DS is an utterly vile place. Bullying, racism, mega tribalism.

You've been on there quite a while so must have seen all the nastiness that took place around 2016. Some seriously vile people. I don't see them as a representation of left or right, many are the dross of either end. There are some reasonable people too and how often do you see them say on GD they avoid the politics board because of the tribal nature of those who haunt it?

[MyNameIsTerry]

I would do without the things I enjoy to see how the jab affects people first. And hope for a tablet vaccine/oral one like the flu? Or atleast one dose jab rather than two

But when the oral form came along you would then have to wait to see how that affected people. Or are you saying you would take the oral form straight away? If so that shows it's less about how it affects people and more about the needle.

[phil06]

But when the oral form came along you would then have to wait to see how that affected people. Or are you saying you would take the oral form straight away? If so that shows it's less about how it affects people and more about the needle.

I would wait and see. I mean in the ideal world 70% take the vaccine life goes back to normal and we don’t hear about covid like sars, bird flu, swine flu ect again maybe it’s out there but rare. In that case maybe no rush for a vaccine. If it was still a danger and there was a tablet I would consider taking it again not saying I would be first would depend on how much the virus is out there. Sure life is uncertain but covid has made every day uncertain you can barely plan your breakfast for tomorrow never mind a holiday. I am surprised people have sat back and taken being told what to do.

With politics in America it’s very worrying times as is in the UK as Boris has been a let down as PM. I would swing towards Scottish independence now and I was very pro union. One good reason is we never went full second lockdown like England.

[phil06]

Phil, the politics board on DS is an utterly vile place. Bullying, racism, mega tribalism.

You've been on there quite a while so must have seen all the nastiness that took place around 2016. Some seriously vile people. I don't see them as a representation of left or right, many are the dross of either end. There are some reasonable people too and how often do you see them say on GD they avoid the politics board because of the tribal nature of those who haunt it?

I use to online represented everybody but there is people I know who don’t even use Facebook so probably don’t use forums. Sadly when socialising is banned right now it’s hard to hear different views down the pub. All I know is everybody is just getting on with it but I hear from very little family or friends. Quite somber really but I guess others have the same issue I spoke to someone in my family who has been working from home and seen nobody all year.

[phil06]

And it is very hard trying to argue on a Labour Pro Remain Pro Vaccine forum. I wish there was more balanced onions to everything on forums but seems they are in the minority. I avoid the Trump topics too they can be very heated

[MyNameIsTerry]

And it is very hard trying to argue on a Labour Pro Remain Pro Vaccine forum. I wish there was more balanced onions to everything on forums but seems they are in the minority. I avoid the Trump topics too they can be very heated

Yep, big anti Trump threads on there. If Gary ever goes on there he won't have missed the tendency of online ScotNats to be as credible as anti vaxxers.

[MyNameIsTerry]

I would wait and see. I mean in the ideal world 70% take the vaccine life goes back to normal and we don’t hear about covid like sars, bird flu, swine flu ect again maybe it’s out there but rare. In that case maybe no rush for a vaccine. If it was still a danger and there was a tablet I would consider taking it again not saying I would be first would depend on how much the virus is out there. Sure life is uncertain but covid has made every day uncertain you can barely plan your breakfast for tomorrow never mind a holiday. I am surprised people have sat back and taken being told what to do.

With politics in America it’s very worrying times as is in the UK as Boris has been a let down as PM. I would swing towards Scottish independence now and I was very pro union. One good reason is we never went full second lockdown like England.

Governments change. The last election was mostly about Brexit and the Labour party swinging too far left. The next one, providing Brexit has been done, will hopefully be more about home issues. And dont forget the same experts advising the government, the scientific groups, would have been the same under Labour. Not to mention Corbyn's slow response to everything. It's an unusual time where governments can shine or be caught out.

Your independence is worth a separate decision. If you go you will be asking the EU for loans. The cry here will be to not allow Scotland avoid it's debt responsibilities (where the ScotNats and hard Brexitors share opinions on not paying their dues) and pull everything out into the remaining UK. And expect the Orneys & co to have their own say as the SNP are doing to them what Westminster is doing to Scotland. I think one big question to ask if is it's better under the SNP?

[phil06]

I heard there is a vaccine where it requires just one dose is almost ready and also the tablet vaccine. Perhaps better solutions are ahead?

However I feel quite bad other than my work colleagues and mother I have barely seen anyone all year. I am surprised others cope I mean I see nobody I can do nothing even during the war things were never this restrictive. But yes it gets to me as there has been so little to do. The future is more uncertain than ever we have no idea when and if these restrictions will go I mean I read masks to continue into winter 2021 how cheerful?

[glassgirlw]

Here’s my two cents. Your catastrophising something that absolutely no one has a way to predict at this point. How long we wear masks and distance is going to come down to how many people choose to get the vaccine, providing the makers of the vaccines can keep up with the demand, and shipments arrive where they need to go as scheduled. There’s just no way to determine any of those variables at this point in time.

I did read some interesting studies on the oral tablet vaccine - but they don’t expect it to be ready for release until well into 2021.

I know that the lack of control over the situation is extremely hard to deal with. But it seems to me that there is no time like the present to develop some coping strategies for exactly this situation since we all find ourselves in it right now. And, we’re in a much better position right now than we were at the beginning of this whole thing a year ago. There is a light at the end of the tunnel now, vaccines are here, treatments are better - try to focus on the positives and what we know rather than trying to guess what’s going to happen towards the end of 2021.

[pulisa]

You can still see people though..Just not indoors here in England.

I thought you had an exclusion from wearing a mask though? At least you still have a job whereas many people have lost theirs or have had their hours greatly reduced.

Things could be worse. You could live in China or North Korea. You could be homeless. Instead you are having to do without holidays, gigs and football. I know this is very significant for you but for many people covid has brought about far greater losses and some people are dealing with very challenging home situations completely unsupported. Not that I would expect you to be remotely interested in other people's misfortune and distress though.