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    Compassion costs Nothing.........

    ...........but can be Priceless!

    One of the things that saddens me most of all is the damage caused by "life" and particularly by others. There are so many people who suffer so much as a result and so many of them don't deserve their suffering. I guess that's one of the reasons why I feel drawn back to this site even when at times I feel I'm not really helping much.

    Anxiety sufferers are such caring people but they constantly beat themselves up because they can't see themselves for the "good" people that they are due to their past and the way life has treated them. Of all the people in the world, it seems so cruel that such lovely people suffer so much and I guess it's because of the type of people they are that makes me keep coming back here.

    When I was in my bad spell, I had some bad experiences which compounded my bad feelings about myself.

    I saw a therapist once who was of no use whatsoever, who shouldn't have been in their job. He said to me he didn't know what I was worrying about and I should go home and ....... ...... with the wife! The last thing I would want to do even then anyway!

    When I used to self harm, a doctor asked me why I was wasting his time when there were "genuinely" ill people to treat and to think of my wife and her "genuine" illness!

    When I self harmed in hospital, I was told by a nurse that if I wanted to self harm then to do it somewhere where no one could see me by accident!

    When I suffered a panic attack and was taken to hospital, a nurse said she didn't know why I was there because there was "nothing" wrong with me despite knowing I'd had an attack of some kind.

    When the cpn visits my wife, I'm often in bed due to the late nights my wife causes but I'm totally ignored by the cpn as if I don't exist.

    When the doctor referred me to the mental health team, I was told to get out and socialise on my own without any support, and even now despite all my efforts, my only local friends are oap's who are twice my age.

    When I went on an anxiety management course held by the local mental health team, I ended up having heated debates with the tutor because of the way they've always ignored me.

    Even when I took an overdose mixed with other things one night, a cpn told me to go to bed to sleep it off!

    When people say to me to look after myself, I smile because everything I've ever done, I've had to do for "myself" so I can look after my wife and mother.

    Those are some of the bad points!

    Now for some good!

    One time I went for a break With my wife to a "hotel" that provided respite. Whilst we were there I met people who suffered her illness (schizophrenia), people with depression and also anxiety sufferers. There was one young woman who had been through a terrible ordeal and no one had ever been there for her so I felt I had to do something however small, to try and show that people cared about her so I decided to write her a poem to show what a lovely caring woman she was.

    We went on an organised boat trip and whilst we were all sitting on the boat, I gave her the poem. She immediately burst into tears saying that no one had ever written her a nice poem about herself before. I wanted to do more for her as writing a poem felt so little but to her I believe that show of compassion was priceless. I would hope that she kept it to remind herself what a "good" person she was because I've never seen her since so I sincerely hope that she's keeping well.

    When I lost my father, at his funeral I kept myself together. From the time he fell ill some months previous and even beyond then, I had never received any show of comfort or affection even from my wife or mother for different reasons. My wifes illness prevents her from being tactile and in my mothers case the slightest touch would set her off with tears so I kept to myself.

    After the funeral, a woman I know from bowls came up to me and gave me a hug. She had lost her husband not long previously. I hadn't noticed she'd been there at the service and all I could think of was her courage to attend so soon after losing her husband to the same illness. At that thought and as she held me, only then did I release some tears in public. Before then I'd always cried to myself because I didn't want hassle from my wife or upset my mother.

    Such little offerings of compassion cost Nothing but can I believe be priceless to those in need. I'll never forget that hug and every time I see this woman I think of her courage and the day she showed me a moments comfort and her priceless act of compassion.

    If there was more trust and compassion in this world, there would be much less suffering. Compassion costs Nothing but can be Priceless to those who are suffering and feel alone.

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    Re: Compassion costs Nothing.........

    Hi Bill

    What a lovely post your so right compassion costs nothing.

    The health authorities hav'nt got the time and also I'm sorrry to say have lost the compassion in their job do to the pressures of the job and becoming too used to the job.

    Thought my illness, the mental health team have always looked towards the guilt trip with me by saying look what you are doing to your family, your husband is a good man and see whats happening to him. Where will your daughter be if you carry on like this?
    Thats the help I had obviously causing my illness to esculate and end up with another admission into hospital.

    I have discovered how my friends are to, the ones that I havnt heard from in nearly 3 yrs and the ones that havnt left my side. They may not of known what to say to be but they were there, holding my hand, a touch on the shoulder, helping out with the house for Chris the list is endless.

    The biggest and most important part of what Im trying to say is a touch or just one word can make all the difference to someone and its free.

    Thanks Bill
    love ness

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    You are right compassion does cost nothing and anyone that is in the business of caring for people should have plenty of it.

    Although my daughter has OCD, social paranoia, agraphobia, suffers from anxiety attacks, insomnia etc she has the same sense of humour as me so this helps her along. I was feeling down a few weeks ago and suffering from panic attacks as I was extremely worried about my cat. I came on this board looking for help.

    My doctor was very helpful and realised that my over the top worrying over my cats welfare was the straw that broke the camels back so to say and put me on antidepressants

    Fortunately they have really helped and I am more rational regarding my cat (I was worrying over everything he did) and am more or less back to my normal extrovert, silly self.

    I have become attached to this board and feel exceedingly sorry for many of its members. I am a trained nurse but had to give it up to to a spine injury.

    Last Dec I was diagnosed as having a brain tumour (meningioma) and I am on the watch and wait programme (having a MRI every six months) but
    I feel that even if I can just say a few words of support (not in a huggy way I hasten to add) to the members it might help them to feel better about themselves.

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    Bill,
    So right....once again.
    Compassion does cost nothing and does mean the world to those who are suffering. I think the reason why so many of us spend so much time on this site is because we receive so much compassion from other members, in other words.........this is a safe place for us to land!

    Sometimes, we just cry out for some compassion. Unfortunately, my ex-wife never shows any compassion towards me even though when she is ill (and she always seems to be) I will always ask if there is anything I can do for her.
    One of my problems is when I feel ill, owing to my anxious state I always panic and end up calling or texting her. Whereupon the reply is always 'What can I do about it? I'm not a nurse'! I am then normally victim to a load of verbal abuse as to why can't I be a man! Although she never used to be like this, over time she has changed to a person who has no sympathy and also finds it difficult to accept any help from anyone, especially me.....a trait which her father suffers from.

    I think that some people find it hard to offer compassion. Maybe they find it a weakness and just think that we should just 'snap out of it' or 'grow up'! (How many times have we heard that)! Some, it is obvious, that they have a 'chip on their shoulder' or an atittude problem and for some, I believe their lack of compassion also indicates a manifestation of their own anxiety (although they will never admit it, especially if it is subconscious).

    I agree with you Bill that some therapists and so called 'Professionals' should never be in the job regardless of their qualifications. Bedside manner and compassion is the first qualification anyone should have in order help sufferers. To them, it is just a job, there is no great dedication. It reminds me of something a photographer friend of mine once said. 'You can photograph the most beautiful woman in the world, but if she's not photogenic, it ain't gonna work'!

    A good post Bill.

    Kevin.

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    Dear All

    Really good posts today, I don't get compassion at home, but its nice to know where I can find it.
    By the by lads, I work in mental health and believe me genuine compassion amongst so called professionals is as common as hen's teeth.

    Any way going back out in the sun now, take care.

    Lots of Love

    Debbie
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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    'Compassion' actually means 'to suffer with' or 'alongside'. Perhaps this is why the best healers are also sufferers. You can't really get alongside a suffering person without making yourself vulnerable in some way. Perhaps only a 'wounded healer' can help, someone who has trodden the same path of pain and tears.
    On a more practical note, I am often amazed at the lack of imagination and empathy shown by doctors and mental health professionals. Obviously there are some dedicated and caring people in these jobs, but there are so many who aren't, and who do more harm than good.

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    bill could i just thanks you for the compassion u have shown me over the past few weeks when ive been struggling.

    ur pms and emails cheer me so much and the virtual hugs show what a lovely human being u are

    thanks so much for posting on nmp

    love

    milly xxxx

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    Hi Bill, you are right compassion costs nothing!! It is one of the Buddhist Ways along with Wisdom and Courage. It is not the same as pity that does not do us any good, but a simple human understanding. We are all busy trying to cope with life sometimes but we need to help each other. Thats what this site is all about.
    Cheers!!!

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    Samsara ,

    So often I find that when people feel so low, they feel a burden to others so won't share their feelings because they worry about depressing others about their moans so instead they retreat into a shell which I find very sad because bottling feelings just make us feel worse.

    I do though understand their reasons and often I feel it's because they've been so used to being put down or belittled by others when they've tried opening up in the past.

    This is why I agree with you and feel this site is so valuable because it enables people to offload their worries with people who truly understand them like yourself. It's people on here like you that keeps me coming back!

    Milly,

    You're Very Welcome! It's a Pleasure and a Delight to do what I can to help someone as Caring as you!

    Samira ,

    I agree that professionals have the knowledge and expertise but sufferers can provide the compassion they lack because sufferers understand each other!

    Debbie ,

    If ever you feel in need of compassion, I'm always happy to provide it to you and anyone else who needs it because I know how it feels to live without any! I wish you were my wifes cpn! She visited again yesterday.........and naturally, not even a word to enquire how or where I was!

    Kevin ,

    You need to find someone to turn to who appreciates your caring manner and who deserves you! Is there a MIND group in your area?

    Trixie ,

    I feel that even if I can just say a few words of support (not in a huggy way I hasten to add) to the members it might help them to feel better about themselves.

    You've offered words AND a hug to me and you certainly helped me! You're what I would call a True nurse that I admire....a woman with abundant Compassion And Care.

    Ness ,

    The biggest and most important part of what Im trying to say is a touch or just one word can make all the difference to someone and its free.

    I know which word I'd choose..................LOVE!...............but that's because I'm soft and soppy!

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    Re: Compassion costs Nothing.........

    you are right, compassion costs nothing but makes up for everything. unfortunately you think it would cost an arm and a leg the way some people act.

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