Yorkshire puddings

[Memimck]

You are missing out on so many important dietary elements necessary to keep you healthy, and for so long. I'm not surprised you are feeling unwell. You will of course know this, but you are in the grips of this horrible phobia. You didn't say, but I think it's incredibly important that you are seeing a doctor about this problem immediately. Have you visited a GP ?

You are in such a difficult place with this right now, and you must get some help. This can be sorted out, but you need some real world help from someone who specialises in this sort of problem...a referral to help you build the skills to deal with the phobia and start eating things that can make you feel more well. You aren't as stuck as you think, it will just take a small step, reaching out for some help.

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Fresh carrots (not cooked), peeled, and chopped into bite sized pieces would be a really good place to start. Have a bowl next to you to nibble on.

Bananas are great, they tell ill people to eat bananas as they are so good for you, and very gentle on the stomach and easy to digest.

How about raisins? You could mix a handful into your yoghurts?

There is no protein in the list of 'things you want to try'

I'm scared to go get help from a go because of how underweight I am.. I've seen stories of people like me being treated like anorexic and put into inpatient care and I couldn't do that as I wouldn't be able to eat what they give me as I'm scared of it and vomitting.
Thank you for the advice.... I was wanting to try chicken dippers or fish fingers but I worry I won't cook it right and get poisoning or that the batter around the chicken/fish will make me sick. If have chicken soup but I worry that will make me sick too :'(

[Carys]

When animals or people are ill and have bad stomachs, they give them plain chicken and rice....as its so easy on the stomach and easy to digest. SO, chicken is a great place to start, but, you don't need to have a ready meal version of chicken in batter and breadcrumbs.

Why not just buy a pack of ready cooked chicken slices or a ready cooked chicken breast? You could take a tiny piece off it, a biteful, and try it and see how you are in an hour. I think you'll be totally fine, but if you want to really limit your intake to make sure you are ok, then literally have a bite, put it back in the fridge, have another bite next hour. Once you've done that a few times you should know its ok to have a bit more ?

I'm so sorry to hear that you feel this way about the GP and how you feel they might treat you. You have got an extreme problem here, and surely explaining it is a phobia and not anorexia would be believed.

[Memimck]

When animals or people are ill and have bad stomachs, they give them plain chicken and rice....as its so easy on the stomach and easy to digest. SO, chicken is a great place to start, but, you don't need to have a ready meal version of chicken in batter and breadcrumbs.

Why not just buy a pack of ready cooked chicken slices or a ready cooked chicken breast? You could take a tiny piece off it, a biteful, and try it and see how you are in an hour. I think you'll be totally fine, but if you want to really limit your intake to make sure you are ok, then literally have a bite, put it back in the fridge, have another bite next hour. Once you've done that a few times you should know its ok to have a bit more ?

I'm so sorry to hear that you feel this way about the GP and how you feel they might treat you. You have got an extreme problem here, and surely explaining it is a phobia and not anorexia would be believed.

Thank you for all your help... I just don't want to be put I to a hospital :(
Your right about the chicken that sounds like a good idea I might try it. Do you mean to eat it cold or heat it up... can't hearing chicken be bad. I want to try rice... is mirowavable rice ok? Can you under or over cook rice?
Your being so kind thank you after talking to you to ight I actually had a bite of my mum's toast... and It had butter on it!!!!!! Know it sounds pathetic but haven't eaten anything like that in so long my mum was so shocked... thank you... I want to beat this I can do this your right my body properly feels so sick from missing it on nutrients for so long

[Carys]

You should be incredibly proud of yourself!!!!!! I bet your Mum was astounded !!!! That is a really big step, and a fantastic step in the right direction after two long years.

You can buy those packs of microwaveable rice, Tilda do loads of different packets, from totally plain, mushroom, tomato, lemon rice to egg fried rice and ...well...they do loads. They are SO easy to do and you can't get it wrong (AND being microwaved means there can be no germs!) ALl you do is squish the packet around in your hands to separate the rice, then you tear a corner to let the steam escape and microwave for 2 minutes. It is steaming hot and perfectly cooked.

Later on, once you have broken through these barriers you can learn to cook rice (its easy , but yes you can over or under cook it, not that it will hurt you but it won't be as nice to eat!) but why not make it easy on yourself at first and just deal with the trying of a few bites of news things.
Same for cooking chicken, learn how to cook it later.....

I was suggesting buying a packet of chicken pieces already cooked and try them cold. Any supermarket, in the meat section (near the ham and other cooked meats) will have some absolutely plain chicken breast pieces already cooked and ready for sandwiches. You keep it in the fridge and tear a little piece off and try it, like the bite of toast you just had. It's already properly cooked and ready to eat. The only thing is, once the pack is opened you can only keep it for a few days (it will tell you on the packet). Be very careful, go very slowly, a tiny bit here and there.

You know what , your motivation to NOT be treated by someone else/other people seems strong enough that bit by bit you could make a big difference to your eating habits.

Can your Mum help you with choosing and getting some plain microwaveable rice and ready cooked chicken ?

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If your Mum went to the doctor with you, she could help discuss you getting some therapy for your problem, and make sure that you are treated at home in the community?!

[Memimck]

You should be incredibly proud of yourself!!!!!! I bet your Mum was astounded !!!! That is a really big step, and a fantastic step in the right direction after two long years.

You can buy those packs of microwaveable rice, Tilda do loads of different packets, from totally plain, mushroom, tomato, lemon rice to egg fried rice and ...well...they do loads. They are SO easy to do and you can't get it wrong (AND being microwaved means there can be no germs!) ALl you do is squish the packet around in your hands to separate the rice, then you tear a corner to let the steam escape and microwave for 2 minutes. It is steaming hot and perfectly cooked.

Later on, once you have broken through these barriers you can learn to cook rice (its easy , but yes you can over or under cook it, not that it will hurt you but it won't be as nice to eat!) but why not make it easy on yourself at first and just deal with the trying of a few bites of news things.
Same for cooking chicken, learn how to cook it later.....

I was suggesting buying a packet of chicken pieces already cooked and try them cold. Any supermarket, in the meat section (near the ham and other cooked meats) will have some absolutely plain chicken breast pieces already cooked and ready for sandwiches. You keep it in the fridge and tear a little piece off and try it, like the bite of toast you just had. It's already properly cooked and ready to eat. The only thing is, once the pack is opened you can only keep it for a few days (it will tell you on the packet). Be very careful, go very slowly, a tiny bit here and there.

You know what , your motivation to NOT be treated by someone else/other people seems strong enough that bit by bit you could make a big difference to your eating habits.

Can your Mum help you with choosing and getting some plain microwaveable rice and ready cooked chicken ?

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Edited to add......


If your Mum went to the doctor with you, she could help discuss you getting some therapy for your problem, and make sure that you are treated at home in the community?!

Thank you it actually felt good I actually quite liked it ... butter and everything I'm still in shock... that's the first time I've done anything like that in 2 years your... I just feel like I've reached a point where I don't want to be this way anynore... but it's still so hard because im still so scared I'm gonna be sick :(

My mum will help me with getting rice and chicken etc.. she's just ordered me Yorkshire puddings in our shopping so their the next thing in Going to try and eat.
Can you not get poisoning from cooking rice in the microwave or is it ok from those little packets... uncle Ben's do boil in the bag rice... is that safer or does it really not matter.

What about jam and butter by putting things like that on my bread or toast is that ok... I just don't want it to make the food too heavy.
Can you heat them cold chicken bits or not?

Should I be worried thst I haven't eaten this stuff in so lomg so my body might not be used it all and reject it?

Your very helpful Thank you loads xx

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Also... I'm wanting to add fruit I was thinking bananas ... but im worried the sugars that occur in fruit will irritate my stomach ... I know added and refined sugar can be irritating but I'm not sure if the ones in sugar are the same or if they don't count... if you get what I mean.... as fructose sugar can be irritating and fructose is whats in fruit I already have over 50g of sugar a day would adding like a banana be too much sugar in my body I don't want it to make me sick if I have too much sugar.
Sorry if I seem irrational again I was just wondering.

[Carys]

Hiyer,

I wish I knew the answers to all your questions, but I'm so sorry but I don't.

I'm not an expert on nutrition, or someone who has been limiting their food and is very underweight, I'm just a Mum who has a daughter of exactly your age and I'm a keen cook with an interest in nutrition in general )

May I ask your BMI ? (you don't need to say, or you can PM me if youd prefer) I was thinking that you should get some assistance from the GP and advice on how to reintroduce foods as I know there are specialists in this field who know how to achieve slow weight gains and foods that are best to ensure your electrolytes remain balanced, your digestive system isn't overloaded at first and your metabolism is monitored - and things like that.

Here's an idea: I know you don't fit the classification for the usual eating disorders, but the result has been the same and it is a mental health problem SOOooooo, here we go.....

https://www.beateatingdisorders.org.uk/

How about giving them a ring on their adult helpline and asking them for their advice. Also, they seem to have a huge quantity of resources on all aspects of eating and food across the top menu. You could ask them this question...

Should I be worried that I haven't eaten this stuff in so log so my body might not be used it all and reject it?

I will be here to continue supporting you, and as I've said I will happily PM if you'd rather not put things up here.


(I see absolutely no harm in smearing a little jam or butter on your toast by the way! AND if you want to increase the food you eat but carry on eating what you already eat, to increase calories, then add another bowl of cereal as that has vitamins and minerals added)

[Memimck]

Thanks for all your help... thank you for the link I will have a look on the website.... your advice has been really beneficial to me and really made me think about my next steps... if I need anymore assistance I will be sure to pm you.
Thank you lots and lots x

[Carys]

You are so welcome ! It is rare to hear that you have made a difference to people. I'd love to hear how you get on. Message me if you ever want to.

I think you are a really intelligent young woman, with so much potential and ability, who has been trapped by this mental health problem. I see a really bright future for you, because YOU have decided to deal with this. It was YOU who asked about Yorkshire puddings, it is you who is taking steps to deal with things.

I'll keep my eyes peeled for any other information that could be helpful to you. I still think rice is a good way to start, and a little chicken, but you could ask them on that helpline above.

[Memimck]

Ok... so just wanted to update everyone... after all your comments... tonight i just had dinner and i had a yorkshire pudding... i ate it all!!! And im not afraid to say... it was actually really nice... still feeling anxious as just eaten it but gotta say i am proud of myself... makes a nice change from bread and biscuit
Thank you to everyone's comments you've really helped me start to move on... next food.... bananas

[Carys]

Oh WOW !!!!! That is amazing !!! Really. That is absolutely brilliant. I'm so glad you came back to update. After your bananas.....try some protein....you really need some.

What did your Mum say ??