thanks for comments PanickyPolly and PhantasyStar. reading your note phantasystar it reminded me that I still very much seem to care about other peoples opinion of me, and what they think in general, I wish I could get rid of that way of thinking, constantly needing approval and wanting to be liked, I think the saying "you cant be all things to all people" is so true adn you really have to know who you are and be comfortable in who you are. what you said is exactly how I felt, I felt like I couldnt win, like you said, too quiet is weird etc etc. and PanickyPolly I got to the point where I too was highly sensitive to any potential 'talking about me' to the point where I would intentionally listen out to all conversations around me and look around and look and check peoples body language and their reaction to a conversation I was having with them, the side glances they would make during a conversations, I would say something and check the faces of all those I was talking to, to the point where I wasnt sure if some of it was in my head or not, it was horrible, wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy!