Feel like something isn't right??

[Pinguanxious]

Yep Google headspace, ten free sessions, I loved the first one!! See my evenings are fine... It's the mornings I can't stand!!! I get so tired of it all sometimes, although now I'm going to bed and I am worried about work tommorow as I have lots to do! And targets to hit, however I can cope, if these thoughts were in the morning I couldn't cope! What sort of thoughts affect your day?
Is anyone else taking. Medication for depression/anxiety?

[MyNameIsTerry]

I take Duloxetine since my relapse and before that it was Citalopram. To be honest, they help you restore some balance but they are not curative.

You may find it interesting to know that MBCT is now NICE recognised for recurrent depression. I expect it will be for anxiety in the future.

I find it really disappointing that GP's and therapists are not putting more behind it. My therapist introduced me with a few free mp3's but this is not as much as we can obtain via Google or in the books. Just the NHS being far behind the times for mental health, so business as usual, eh?

Glad that helped you. I haven't tried Headspace but I think I will need to now you've said its good. Try those free ones off Professor Williams website as well as they are in his book so fit within MBCT and the NICE recognition.

There are also books out there for things like quick mindfulness or in a minute. Not sure about these, but if they help you turn it on quickly, maybe they are worth a look?

The mornings have always been my worst, its really common for people with anxiety disorders to say the morning or evenings. For me its the mornings as its when I would be rushing around more or on deadlines.

[Pinguanxious]

Another not so great morning for me, I'm not too bad I just feel a little panicked, then of course I'm trying to work out why, my OH has been working nights so haven't seen him in a few days, I was really looking forward to seeing him tonight but this morning I'm not sure again, what if I don't really want to be with him? That's what my brain is telling me! I'm so fed up of it!!

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How did you find citalopram terry?

[MyNameIsTerry]

I never had those relationship doubts with my first bout of GAD but when I relapsed I also developed various forms of OCD and I have had a lot of relationship doubts ranging from "I could do better" to "I don't wan this, it's not enough" and then you get all the guilt when you are back in depression mode because you are just desperate for help off anyone and think about how your partner puts up with you. I wonder whether its more prevalent with OCD given my experience?

Citalopram made me more anxious for the first few weeks and the first 10 days were the worst. After that it started to ease of but it was over a month, more 6 weeks that I felt it settle back to where it was before I started them. The first day was a bit odd with nausea but I slept and then I had a few days of not sleeping and I got up in tears as I felt really bad. I ended up having the crisis team out after my GP called in as he was on his rounds in the area and I couldn't get an urgent appointment (its weeks at my surgury unless you attend the open surgery before 9am which I had missed due to trying to get any sleep!) and he called them out for advice. They told him to give me something to keep my sleep routine while I got beyond the side effects.

After that they did help me a bit but because I didn't resolve the issues, when I came off them I started to spiral and 6 months later I relapsed. I think most of the work was done by me anyway in pulling myself out of that horrible place so I question whether these medications do any more than keep you above the pit.

[Pinguanxious]

For me I think the issues are that I worry about everything!! Like it doesn't matter what it is, even if I say something maybe slightly inappropriate I will ruminate for ages on it. My therapist says I have really low self esteem so we are working on that. I had a major episode of ocd and depression 5 years ago, I got through it. But I had periods when I had to go back on meds.
This is my first major relapse though. This time I'm really trying to focus on getting better so that I don't relapse again.
I think with citalopram my problem is sleep..... I need sleep! That's probably why I'm worse in the mornings too!
How long do you think a typical "bad" spell lasts? I'm up to three months now, but I got help early so I'm already miles better than I was two months ago when the doc spoke to the crisis team ect. Suh a scary place to be!!

[MyNameIsTerry]

I think thats just GAD really, you end up worrying about everything & nothing. Even when you are not worrying you are still anxious because your subconscious just keeps pushing out the symptoms. Thats why I think CBT is lacklustre if it doesn't also look at behavioural elements to alter your perception of symptoms.

Have you been on Citalopram long? It took me about 3 months to get a better sleep routine back in but that was mostly due to taking Zopiclone for 30 days straight because my GP didn't tell me to cycle it every other day! Something the crisis team told me in their follow up visit. So, I had problems withdrawing from it.

Have you considered magnesium? There are members on here discussing how it has been useful to them on the Natural Remedies board and there is a magnesium taurate one on the GAD board.

[Pinguanxious]

http://www.clinical-depression.co.uk...-and-dreaming/ Wow such an insightful article

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This time I've been on citalopram for about 3 months but I tapered up from 10-20 and now on 40. Magnesium? Is that like a supplement? I'll have to look into that, yes cby isn't great because it's trying to get me to label my thoughts.... That's hard when I don't know why I'm worried :-)

[MyNameIsTerry]

Thats part of the problem with GAD, it can be about pretty much everything but also nothing. CBT is great for things that are specific, but I believe something more complex or general is always going to need a longer period of therapy which CBT doesn't allow for. Then you get thrown back into the system with a minimum 12 month wait to get to Level 4 therapies even if your GP is willing to refer you, unlike mine who doesn't want to hence I haven't been back in over a year and he just signs the repeat presciptions!

Magenesium is just a supplement but members on here say it helps them sleep better and feel more refreshed. I think I might try this myself.

[Pinguanxious]

May PPP to Holland and Bharat in a min and have a look! Even now I'm quiet at work and I'm just sitting here, feeling a little nervous and like I need to escape.... No idea why!!!

[MyNameIsTerry]

You are just unable to 'tune' it out. Anxiety symptoms come from the subconscious so its just still sending them to your conscious mind regardless of situation. You have to gradually retrain it not to send them. Learning to relax and focus is part of it.