Bowel cancer worries

[jojo2316]

My partner has 95% lost her patience with me, and when I bring up subjects like this bowel cancer, she just says, 'why haven't I started the tablets'.

My mum is probably the only one who entertains me with my fears at the moment.

The issue I'm finding with this bowel cancer scare is that I actually have probably all the symptoms except the bleeding, but yet because I have HA, the docs won't even take cancer into consideration. BC takes a long time to develop, so they can see in my files that this isn't the first time I've been to see a doc about bowel troubles, and my HA was fine when I got it checked out in May.

I'm constantly fed up and angry with it all, and very impatient with people at times.

It's not over the top to chase a referral for this is it?

I’d say no, except bowel cancer is only one of a litany of health concerns you have at the moment. In what way does your mum “entertain” your fears?
Do you have children?

[MrLurcher]

I’d say no, except bowel cancer is only one of a litany of health concerns you have at the moment. In what way does your mum “entertain” your fears?
Do you have children?

Well shes the one that mainly will enter a conversation with me about all this stuff now.

Yes two girls, 4 and 2. I probably havent bedn the greatest day over the past year with depression, severe anxiety, panic attacks, and more recently HA.

[WiseMonkey]

But what about the recurring same pains, bloating, mushy stools (sorry TMI)........I also read something about Sciatic symptoms being related to rectal cancer that has spread to the spine. I've been having some sciatic type symptoms since december.

I know that I've had IBS symptoms for probably 10 years ish now, but the bloating and wind has been dreadful over the past couple of years.

Yes I was thinking of asking for a colonoscopy, but that procedure itself sounds a bit scary/risky.

Ok, your symptoms are classic IBS ones, and stress makes it many times worse than it is.
It's unwise to go prodding your abdomin hard as it will make it sore which can worsen the IBS.

Bowel cancer begins with a polyp/s and the first sign of trouble is bleeding, which you don't have. There are other inflammatory conditions that can cause rectal bleeding that are NOT cancer. I've had some of this benign bleeding.

If you want to have a colonoscopy then pay privately and have one, the prep is the worse, the actual procedure is easy. Maybe it will put your mind at ease.

My daughter (33) has had IBS for many years and she had a colonoscopy last year which was fine.

[nomorepanic]

Hi

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[MrLurcher]

Ok, your symptoms are classic IBS ones, and stress makes it many times worse than it is.
It's unwise to go prodding your abdomin hard as it will make it sore which can worsen the IBS.

Bowel cancer begins with a polyp/s and the first sign of trouble is bleeding, which you don't have. There are other inflammatory conditions that can cause rectal bleeding that are NOT cancer. I've had some of this benign bleeding.

If you want to have a colonoscopy then pay privately and have one, the prep is the worse, the actual procedure is easy. Maybe it will put your mind at ease.

My daughter (33) has had IBS for many years and she had a colonoscopy last year which was fine.

Hi Wisemonkey, thanks for the reply. I try and reason with myself that it's probably IBS, but the boughts I've had on three occasions have just felt different to the normal urges to go, diarrhea and bloating/wind.

Just read up that 92 out of 100 people who have a colonoscopy will need polyps removed. That's quite high isn't it!?!

[jray23]

MrLurcher, I appreciate that while you are in the rabbit hole of HA, at least you've been responsive to replies here unlike many who just continue to rattle off symptoms and alleged illnesses. It gives me hope that you will find your way out.

So though I've shared a lot on your other thread, a couple things. You're very aware that you have HA. Even though you fear several physical illnesses you are not denying the mental. So knowing that you are mentally weak in the realm of health concerns (I am not meaning this in a degrading way, most of us and myself can say the same about ourselves), why in the world are you still allowing yourself to go on cancer websites?? Think to yourself what "win" could possibly come of it??

Second. Imagine for a moment that you go to the docs and they actually do tell you that you have cancer. Then imagine that there was a pill you could try that basically wipes the cancer out for about half the people that take it. (hopefully someday that isn't an imagination!). You'd be chomping at the bit to get it and take it, wouldn't you? Of course you would. So why do you still refuse the HA medication when you clearly need any kind of help you can get?? I'm usually not one to encourage meds but if nothing else is working why not?

If you won't do it for you, do it for your family! You've openly admitted that your wife/gf has had it, that you're not totally there for your kids, who are at or nearing the stage where they need their parents' love and care the most. Why risk losing that???

I sit here alone on my couch at the conclusion of a relaxing, but lonely weekend...I want nothing more than to have someone who cares about me sitting on the other end, even just occasionally giving me a smile. I would trade all of my HA progress in an instant for that... because I know I would fight like hell to get back out of the hole again! I can't even fathom knowingly allowing this to continue with a loving family on the line.

Try the meds. Give it a shot and if doesn't work at least you won't wonder what would have happened.

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[WiseMonkey]

Just read up that 92 out of 100 people who have a colonoscopy will need polyps removed. That's quite high isn't it!?!

Where did you read this info, I've never come across this?! I'm sure a % of people have polyps in their bowel, rectum or anus (all apart of the colon) and the vast majority are benign, very much like the lesions on your skin (moles, freckles etc).

My daughter had a small polyp in the lower part of her rectum, it was completely benign, they removed it with the scope. I've had about 5 colonoscopies in my lifetime, for bleeding, and have never had any polyps, just some inflammation (which isn't cancerous and clears up).

Both my daughter and I have IBS which is an autoimmune condition, her's tends to be worse than mine.

If you're older (like me) and have episodes of bleeding it wise to get things checked out

[pulisa]

MrLurcher, I appreciate that while you are in the rabbit hole of HA, at least you've been responsive to replies here unlike many who just continue to rattle off symptoms and alleged illnesses. It gives me hope that you will find your way out.

So though I've shared a lot on your other thread, a couple things. You're very aware that you have HA. Even though you fear several physical illnesses you are not denying the mental. So knowing that you are mentally weak in the realm of health concerns (I am not meaning this in a degrading way, most of us and myself can say the same about ourselves), why in the world are you still allowing yourself to go on cancer websites?? Think to yourself what "win" could possibly come of it??

Second. Imagine for a moment that you go to the docs and they actually do tell you that you have cancer. Then imagine that there was a pill you could try that basically wipes the cancer out for about half the people that take it. (hopefully someday that isn't an imagination!). You'd be chomping at the bit to get it and take it, wouldn't you? Of course you would. So why do you still refuse the HA medication when you clearly need any kind of help you can get?? I'm usually not one to encourage meds but if nothing else is working why not?

If you won't do it for you, do it for your family! You've openly admitted that your wife/gf has had it, that you're not totally there for your kids, who are at or nearing the stage where they need their parents' love and care the most. Why risk losing that???

I sit here alone on my couch at the conclusion of a relaxing, but lonely weekend...I want nothing more than to have someone who cares about me sitting on the other end, even just occasionally giving me a smile. I would trade all of my HA progress in an instant for that... because I know I would fight like hell to get back out of the hole again! I can't even fathom knowingly allowing this to continue with a loving family on the line.

Try the meds. Give it a shot and if doesn't work at least you won't wonder what would have happened.

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This is such a wonderful and insightful post from jray, Mr Lurcher. PLEASE take the time to read it through properly and listen to what he is saying? You aren't a helpless victim of HA-you CAN help yourself by putting a stop to all the Googling and "research" because you will never get better if you persist in these harmful and addictive behaviours and your FAMILY will suffer.

[jojo2316]

Can you explain a bit more about why you do t want to try medication?

[MrLurcher]

MrLurcher, I appreciate that while you are in the rabbit hole of HA, at least you've been responsive to replies here unlike many who just continue to rattle off symptoms and alleged illnesses. It gives me hope that you will find your way out.

So though I've shared a lot on your other thread, a couple things. You're very aware that you have HA. Even though you fear several physical illnesses you are not denying the mental. So knowing that you are mentally weak in the realm of health concerns (I am not meaning this in a degrading way, most of us and myself can say the same about ourselves), why in the world are you still allowing yourself to go on cancer websites?? Think to yourself what "win" could possibly come of it??

Second. Imagine for a moment that you go to the docs and they actually do tell you that you have cancer. Then imagine that there was a pill you could try that basically wipes the cancer out for about half the people that take it. (hopefully someday that isn't an imagination!). You'd be chomping at the bit to get it and take it, wouldn't you? Of course you would. So why do you still refuse the HA medication when you clearly need any kind of help you can get?? I'm usually not one to encourage meds but if nothing else is working why not?

If you won't do it for you, do it for your family! You've openly admitted that your wife/gf has had it, that you're not totally there for your kids, who are at or nearing the stage where they need their parents' love and care the most. Why risk losing that???

I sit here alone on my couch at the conclusion of a relaxing, but lonely weekend...I want nothing more than to have someone who cares about me sitting on the other end, even just occasionally giving me a smile. I would trade all of my HA progress in an instant for that... because I know I would fight like hell to get back out of the hole again! I can't even fathom knowingly allowing this to continue with a loving family on the line.

Try the meds. Give it a shot and if doesn't work at least you won't wonder what would have happened.

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Thanks again for the reply jray, it's much appreciated to try and explain my thoughts as logical. Not sure why I can't help but go on cancer sites, it's still reassurance seeking I think. Unfortunately all the scare stories and missed diagnosis of the world remain ingrained in my head, and I don't trust the doctors fully. I haven't trusted docs completely from a bad experience at 19 when my doctor at the time sent me for blood tests, and a specialist referral because of ' bigger than normal taste buds' and I was getting boughts of 'geographic tongue'. That doc scared the crap out of me, and I ended up researching things like HIV, AIDS, Immune issues which can cause bumps and burn marks on your tongue. There was nothing wrong with me, the bumps were 'bigger taste buds' and 'geographic tongue' is benign condition, usually caused by acidic food and low zinc - which I didn't have. But I was sent into a panic for months, and always left wondering surely a doc should know what taste buds looks like.

I'm not keen on medication because I've had symptoms when I'm not anxious - like this stomach/bowel pains back in May. I was probably very stressed, but don't quite believe the pains came from that.

Regarding the info on the 92/100 people needing polyps removed, that was from a online NHS leaflet about colonoscopy.

This week a welsh politician died from bowel cancer, aged 34 - only two years older than me. So it can happen to younger people, and is usually left too left because docs are unwilling to refer because of age.