The Politics of Covid 19

[MyNameIsTerry]

Same as here. Take a read of this: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...145177600.html

I think the only likelihood of change occurring here is if there was to be a Starmer/Moran coalition in 2024 which admittedly is unlikely, unless Brexit turns out to be such a calamity that the disorder and disruption it causes makes Covid-19 akin to the day KFC ran out of chicken and the Tories flee with their stuffed bank accounts abroad.

Even then I seem to recall that a proposition to change to PR was defeated in 2010?

Politics, fundamentally, is a mess here. Vast numbers of the electorate are disenfranchised by FPTP in the UK and it only takes a few thousand voters to completely change the makeup of the country once you take the 'tribal' seats out of the equation.

All parties have them and legal eagles like this guy have their beaks firmly in given how great Brexit has been to him. You got to love them covering it up thinking that wouldn't look even worse.

Wasn't it AV as PR got watered down by the coalition? I'm not convinced these systems would work for us either. Germany has problems with coalition government at the moment but they've been successful in the past but they are well used to them. 2016 onwards proved how everything stops if there is a big issue cutting across parties. The previous coalition had it's problems.

So although PR should give us more say I wonder if we would become disenfranchised by a lack movement on issues? I don't think it's the system as much as the snouts that are in it. It's like exec jobs in the public sector: you get sacked for being crap (well, you get paid off) then find yourself shuffled into another elsewhere.

I don't think Starmer will last. He has appeal but also baggage. He was key to watering down Brexit to the point of forgetting it all but offered no solutions to the problems things like FOM cause for those who voted for it in the north. To his credit he accepted it once Boris won a majority but I think he also saw the opportunity to slink away letting Jezza take the hit. People are going to remember his actions and he's yet another London-centric MP which will distance him with those elsewhere just as they did/do for others like him. They are looking after their own constituents so it's to be expected but the rift was growing through the Blair years and Corbyn was a big nail in that coffin.

Brexit would have to go massively wrong to see a Lab-Lib coalition in my opinion . They would be pushing to rejoin. Starmer would have to recapture the areas they lost with an unpopular front bench. And the blame may not all be on the Tories anyway considering the flawed EU stance in negotiations. You could end up with some nose holding to vote Tory with factors like this.

I certainly wouldn't want to place any bets for next year! I can see BoJo slinking off to the next gravy train though.