Yes I understand that Terry and when on the manage attachments page its there is text form Image 0008.jpg the same text is also in my CP under attachments but it's also in text form. In Manage Attachments there is a empty field that you can type in stuff actually I am trying to get round typing in the long url with [IMG------------[IMG] at each end is this possible, isn't that what Copy&Paste is used for? Please bear with me ahh Cheers